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Old 23rd September 2008, 05:04 PM
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Originally Posted by kellyc View Post
please explain
The principle of Ockham's Razor states: Give the simplest explanation that is consistent with all the facts. All the facts of physics, biology and morality can be explained without postulating God. God is
an extremely complex explanation (as Dawkins points out at some length in The God Delusion.)
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Old 23rd September 2008, 05:07 PM
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Originally Posted by kellyc View Post
please explain
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Occam's_Razor
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Old 23rd September 2008, 05:09 PM
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Originally Posted by jmverville View Post
Paganism is pretty awesome in a sense... I have considered partking in some Pagan rituals for purely cultural reasons
But how does this make atheism a form of paganism?
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Originally Posted by jcook922 View Post
Fair enough, I appreciate that type of response, it's refreshing to see people who have some empathy.


same here!
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Old 23rd September 2008, 05:14 PM
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Originally Posted by Andreusz View Post
The principle of Ockham's Razor states: Give the simplest explanation that is consistent with all the facts. All the facts of physics, biology and morality can be explained without postulating God. God is
an extremely complex explanation (as Dawkins points out at some length in The God Delusion.)
ok now that is funny, because to me the most rational and simple explanation for physics, biology, and morality is God.
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Originally Posted by Andreusz View Post
But how does this make atheism a form of paganism?
Oh, it isn't...

Did I say it was?


I'm sorry...
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Originally Posted by kellyc View Post
ok now that is funny, because to me the most rational and simple explanation for physics, biology, and morality is God.
"Simple," in the context of the Razor, does not mean "uses the fewest words." The simplest explanation is the one whose parts - however many there might be - are both observable in principle and represent the minimum number necessary to account for the entire body of evidence surrounding a particular phenomenon.

Please note that Occam's Razor is a heuristic, an intellectual tool for shaping belief systems where deductive certainty is not possible. We may not say that anything is proven or disproven because of an application of the Razor.
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i have never had to apply the Razor, so i know very little about it. to be frank, it sounds like too much thinking to me. i am old, i can only do so much.
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Originally Posted by Cletus View Post
No, I am not kidding and I believe that Jesus would support me in the message I try to spread. The ease in which today's Christians tolerate these Heathens is truly disturbing to me. Jesus follows the scripture and the scripture states that atheists are heathens and are therefore deserving of God's retribution for their false and immoral living.
Look up the definition of anti-Christ.
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No, I am not kidding and I believe that Jesus would support me in the message I try to spread. The ease in which today's Christians tolerate these Heathens is truly disturbing to me. Jesus follows the scripture and the scripture states that atheists are heathens and are therefore deserving of God's retribution for their false and immoral living.
Al Qaeda would be proud. Did the sheer insanity of thinking of people like that for the only crime of thought-crime ever occur to you?
ok now that is funny, because to me the most rational and simple explanation for physics, biology, and morality is God.
As TeddyKGB so sufficiently put it, that's not applying Occam's Razor.
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