The question Evolutionsists can't answer

And the question is this:

"Which evolved first, sexual orgasm, or the desire for sexual orgasm?"

(Let's watch the evoutionists run round and round and round
and round and ....)

The question I can't answer is how you can use the word "evolutionists" twice in one short post and spell it wrongly. but differently, both times.

Could it be that they evolved together?

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How the heck do you evolve a desire?

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Desire is more a consequence of the evolution of orgasm. Orgasm is good, therefore we want it - just like anything else that makes us feel good. Nothing more to it.

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how simplistic. well first of all one would start off with something like an organism that ate stuff. those with more of a drive (chemical response) to carry out a certain behavious (i.e. feeling hungry or thirsty) would succeed over those that didn't. this drive would also involve a pleasure/displeasure response... those organisms that derived a pleasure response from something good for them would be more likely to eat it again and hence survive and displeasure from something that was bad for them would also be more likely to survive.. the pleasure drive would also be linked with the sex drive, since those animals that found it pleasureable would do it again in order to increase the pleasure and hence there would be a differential breeding success which would embed these behaviours in the population.

simple innit?

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A lot of animals do not have "sex" unless they are in "heat". When the female produces a fertile egg she also produces a homorne or some other scent that will attract the male to want to fertilze the egg.

Also with people at least there are visual considerations. A male is attracted to females based on their ability to be able to reproduce. Men like women with a healthy womb and wide hips because those are the women that can deliver a baby without complications. They are attracted to women with healthy breasts that are able to provide nurishment and feed a baby or a child.

As far as I know, the hour glass figure is still in style.

Gee, the walls of Jericho are really tumbling down now.

Nicely done.

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Originally Posted by Data

Desire is more a consequence of the evolution of orgasm. Orgasm is good, therefore we want it - just like anything else that makes us feel good. Nothing more to it.

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Can you take that onto an extention? How did orgasm arrive when they had not seen such a thing before? Everything that has a begining has a cause, what is the cause forthe orgasm when organisms were asexually reproducing? It could have been going on forever without a need for orgasm.

Orgasm is good, therefore we want it - just like anything else that makes us feel good.

As per your definition, Orgasm is good therefore we want it. Isint that the same thing as desire?? For instace, driving a sports car feels good. Therefore we want it. Isint that desire for a sports car? Therefore, how can desire be the consequence of desire?

Originally Posted by Colossians

And the question is this:

"Which evolved first, sexual orgasm, or the desire for sexual orgasm?"

(Let's watch the evoutionists run round and round and round
and round and ....)

Sir, thank you for opeaning a good insight that I never thought about.