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I just proved that they are not legitimate. Next answer.....
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How the heck do you evolve a desire?
Exactly.
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Originally Posted by Intrepid99
Exactly.
Then you have answered the question, Orgasm was evolved but the desire to experience one was not evolved it is a consequence of our psychology.

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Originally Posted by DJ_Ghost
Then you have answered the question, Orgasm was evolved but the desire to experience one was not evolved it is a consequence of our psychology.

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How did orgasm evolve? No one in here were able to answer that.

Only if such thing existed, the psycology would yearn for sex. But if psycology did not experience such thing before, desire for sexual orgasm would not have been possible.
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I just proved that they are not legitimate. Next answer.....
You did no such thing!
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Originally Posted by Intrepid99
How did orgasm evolve? No one in here were able to answer that.
It evolved the way everything evolved, from a chance mutation or combination of allelles. Male organism confers a reproductive advantage: males who enjoy ejaculation are more likely to have offspring than males who do not. It is not clear that female orgasms confer an advantage; many female animals do not have anything that looks like an orgasm and many human females never have them but still get pregnant. There is some evidence that the act of contraction during female orgasm helps facilitate fertilization, however.
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Contraction in the female causes the cervix to dip into the pool of sperm causing the transfer to be more facile.
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Originally Posted by Intrepid99
There is sexual reproduction, but why does orgasm have to take part in it? Whats the need of orgasm according to evolution?
This should be glaringly obvious. Incentive to reproduce. I'd say the orgasm came before the desire for one (what does that even mean; "desire for orgasm"? ), just as the egg did in fact come before the chicken.
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Is it just more or does this sound like the fallacy that animals can control evolution?

Ok, I haven't read through much of the thread but has anyone mentioned that pleasure from sex is only experienced by a few animals. All of these animals seem to be more intelligent, and thus it is possible that as an animal became intelligent enough to ignore its instincts, the ones that thought it was fun reproduced more (since there was a lack of birth control).

It seems like a pretty obvious answer to me, since evolution is based on who can have the most offspring, the more the incentive to have more sex, the more likely the mutation that gives that incentive will be passed on.
But i'm waiting to hear, "the big bang didn't have pleasure, so how did it evolve."
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