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for the former, wouldn't larger muscle contraction by the male organ force the "seed" over larger area of eggs in that type of reproduction. more ferilization, more offspring, the better the population survives. Did you check NCBI for answers yourself before you asked here?
Where did such pride issue come from? How did they that instinct and idea about creating offspring through sex? And to have that sex, they need to have something called desire for sex. Did they have an idea about orgasm when they had that desire?
well first of all one would start off with something like an organism that ate stuff. those with more of a drive (chemical response) to carry out a certain behavious (i.e. feeling hungry or thirsty) would succeed over those that didn't. this drive would also involve a pleasure/displeasure response... those organisms that derived a pleasure response from something good for them would be more likely to eat it again and hence survive and displeasure from something that was bad for them would also be more likely to survive.. the pleasure drive would also be linked with the sex drive, since those animals that found it pleasureable would do it again in order to increase the pleasure and hence there would be a differential breeding success which would embed these behaviours in the population
Shall we start over? It seems to be a theme around here.
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Sorry! When you (Intrepid99) said: It just cannot happen on one day BAM as you said," I read that as if you were accusing me of claiming that it did happen instantly.
well first of all one would start off with something like an organism that ate stuff. those with more of a drive (chemical response) to carry out a certain behavious (i.e. feeling hungry or thirsty) would succeed over those that didn't. this drive would also involve a pleasure/displeasure response... those organisms that derived a pleasure response from something good for them would be more likely to eat it again and hence survive and displeasure from something that was bad for them would also be more likely to survive.. the pleasure drive would also be linked with the sex drive, since those animals that found it pleasureable would do it again in order to increase the pleasure and hence there would be a differential breeding success which would embed these behaviours in the population
Shall we start over? It seems to be a theme around here.
You need food to survive thats the reason organisms eat food. Secindly, the drive for certain chemical respones like feeling hungry and thirsty will not involve its success. If a animal feels hungry it eats, if it dosent it will not. The more drive it has dosent mean that the more chances it has to succeed.
But, you will not die if you dont have sex. It is not a basic need for living. Therefore you cannot compare sex and hunger on the grounds of evolution.
Yet, you did not answer where the pleasure for sex come from.
since those animals that found it pleasureable would do it again in order to increase the pleasure
Where did they come to know about such pleasure which was not embedded in their life style? Did they watch any pornographic website or what?
Sorry! When you (Intrepid99) said: It just cannot happen on one day BAM as you said," I read that as if you were accusing me of claiming that it did happen instantly.
You are excused!! If you still have any explanations for the evolution of their instincts for sex, go ahead and shoot.
But, you will not die if you dont have sex. It is not a basic need for living. Therefore you cannot compare sex and hunger on the grounds of evolution.
Yet, you did not answer where the pleasure for sex come from.
really? A population of sexally reproducing organisms will not die out if they don't have sex? seems like a basic need for a population as a whole, and that is what evolution deals with...
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Where did such pride issue come from? How did they that instinct and idea about creating offspring through sex? And to have that sex, they need to have something called desire for sex. Did they have an idea about orgasm when they had that desire?
pride? Fish don't have pride. (they use schools). I see you like to confuse instinct with desire. microorganisms divide and increase population without desire or sex. so the need to replicate is instinct, a chemical process. female mammals go into heat, which is instinct and a chemical change they do not control. the chemicals then affect the male to respond in an instinctual way. so far no actual thing called desire, but instead chemical processes that remained with the evolving organisms.
again, orgasm is the muscle contracting to expell the sperm. again, chemical and muscular reaction to stimulus.
Do you know anything about biology? Did you look up these things on the NIH NCBI website?
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