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28th July 2004, 11:26 AM
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Yes, it's the most original question, and is in no way related to "the chicken or the egg" question. Sir, I say sir, this is a strawman. |
28th July 2004, 11:29 AM
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Rather than stating volleys against each other, why dont you try to answer the question posed by him? |
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Reps: 562 (power: 0) | | Originally Posted by Intrepid99 Rather than stating volleys against each other, why dont you try to answer the question posed by him?
Because it was already answered in a previous post?
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28th July 2004, 11:50 AM
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can you direct me to that post? |
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Reps: 186 (power: 0) | | Originally Posted by Intrepid99 Can you take that onto an extention? How did orgasm arrive when they had not seen such a thing before? Everything that has a begining has a cause, what is the cause forthe orgasm when organisms were asexually reproducing? It could have been going on forever without a need for orgasm.
Its a simple enough idea, sexual reproduction allows a greater degree of genetic diversity, thus allowing more adaptation to take place. This means that creatures who reproduce sexually change at a faster rate and can adapt more easily. Those creatures who (due to a random mutation) have more drive to have sex are hence more successful. What part of this is so complicated? As per your definition, Orgasm is good therefore we want it. Isint that the same thing as desire?? For instace, driving a sports car feels good. Therefore we want it. Isint that desire for a sports car? Therefore, how can desire be the consequence of desire?
Desire is the consequence of something feeling good, you see? Not too difficult, is it?
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Reps: 21,400,511,615,118,576 (power: 21,400,511,615,126) | | Originally Posted by challenger Its a simple enough idea, sexual reproduction allows a greater degree of genetic diversity, thus allowing more adaptation to take place. This means that creatures who reproduce sexually change at a faster rate and can adapt more easily. Those creatures who (due to a random mutation) have more drive to have sex are hence more successful. What part of this is so complicated?
Desire is the consequence of something feeling good, you see? Not too difficult, is it?
There is sexual reproduction, but why does orgasm have to take part in it? Whats the need of orgasm according to evolution?
You said, desire is the consequence of something feeling good, if nothing such as orgasm existed in organisms, how can that "feeling good" characteristic of orgasm come into existence? |
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Reps: 21,400,511,615,118,576 (power: 21,400,511,615,126) | | Originally Posted by JohnR7 A lot of animals do not have "sex" unless they are in "heat". When the female produces a fertile egg she also produces a homorne or some other scent that will attract the male to want to fertilze the egg.
Also with people at least there are visual considerations. A male is attracted to females based on their ability to be able to reproduce. Men like women with a healthy womb and wide hips because those are the women that can deliver a baby without complications. They are attracted to women with healthy breasts that are able to provide nurishment and feed a baby or a child.
As far as I know, the hour glass figure is still in style.
Yet, you never answered what came first. sexual orgasm, or the desire for sexual orgasm??
Your answer is irrevelant. |
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Reps: 21,400,511,615,118,576 (power: 21,400,511,615,126) | | Originally Posted by Jet Black how simplistic. well first of all one would start off with something like an organism that ate stuff. those with more of a drive (chemical response) to carry out a certain behavious (i.e. feeling hungry or thirsty) would succeed over those that didn't. this drive would also involve a pleasure/displeasure response... those organisms that derived a pleasure response from something good for them would be more likely to eat it again and hence survive and displeasure from something that was bad for them would also be more likely to survive.. the pleasure drive would also be linked with the sex drive, since those animals that found it pleasureable would do it again in order to increase the pleasure and hence there would be a differential breeding success which would embed these behaviours in the population.
simple innit?
You need food inorder to survive that is backed up by the fact that energy needs to be supplied in order to live. But, whats the need for sexual reproduction when organisms were reproducing asexually? What is the need for orgasm in sexual reproduction? How did that pleasure evolve where every man and women on this planet would yearn for?  | | |
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