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Thanks for your answers everyone. Since I've started this thread my son has been gaining weight and now he don't look skinny at all. Actually he is starting to look quite healthy. And a couple of days ago one of the leaders at the hospital canceled all future examinations, since they think he is doing well now. When I heard that, it was like a big pile of stones being lifted from my shoulders.
What have happened I can explain by that I talked to my doctor and asked for a protein-powder that would increase the calories in any food I added the powder into. I also came across a article on the internet about Chinese cooking and how they use MSG in about everything they eat, so I started to add MSG in my dull Norwegian food, and after that both me, my girl and him have been eating very well, cause everything tastes really nice with MSG, and I read on the internet that the only negative things about MSG is that it makes people gain weight (probably because the food taste better, and they eat more) and that's just what I've been looking for.
So right now, everything looks very good. And I really, really hope it stays this way.
So thanks everyone. If you got time for prayer, then please pray that what is happening now will continue.
I added +rep to "Bondservant by Grace" since you shared your wisdom, and I'm going to send a PM to you Elijah, since some of the questions seem to be a bit personal.
Im so happy to hear that you guys are doing better.
Just wait maybe one day youll be telling him that he needs to go on a diet
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Yes Jay, I've found that MSG has a number of side affects, and when I have Chinese food, I know when they have put MSG into the food. I then strike them off my list.
Many people think that MSG is dangerous, but the truth is that there have been massive studies on this, as well as on things like aspartame, and these things are still allowed, because there have been found no health concerns in it. Only in high doses there have been found harmful effects in this, for example on testing on rats. And both aspartame and MSG is being added to food in really small amounts. For a dinner for a family only 1/3 teaspoon of MSG is enough to give the full taste-enhancing effect from it.
In April 1968, Ho Man Kwok wrote an article for the New England Journal of Medicine where he said, "I have experienced a strange syndrome whenever I have eaten out in a Chinese restaurant, especially one that served northern Chinese food. The syndrome, which usually begins 15 to 20 minutes after I have eaten the first dish, lasts for about two hours, without hangover effect. The most prominent symptoms are numbness at the back of the neck, gradually radiating to both arms and the back, general weakness and palpitations...". This comment began a global health scare about monosodium glutamate and "Chinese restaurant syndrome" was born. Research has failed to prove that monosodium glutamate affects a large percentage of the population, and Chinese restaurant syndrome is largely resigned to urban legend status. However, monosodium glutamate is still thought of as suspect by a large proportion of the general public, and many foods continue to be labeled "MSG free".[4]
In 1959, the FDA classified monosodium glutamate as a "generally recognized as safe", or GRAS, substance.[5] This action stemmed from the 1958 Food Additives Amendment to the Federal Food, Drug, and Cosmetic Act, which required premarket approval for new food additives and led the FDA to promulgate regulations listing substances, such as monosodium glutamate, which have a history of safe use or are otherwise GRAS. Since 1970, FDA has sponsored extensive reviews on the safety of monosodium glutamate, other glutamates and hydrolyzed proteins, as part of an ongoing review of safety data on GRAS substances used in processed foods. One such review was by the Federation of American Societies for Experimental Biology (FASEB) Select Committee on GRAS Substances. In 1980, the committee concluded that monosodium glutamate was safe at current levels of use but recommended additional evaluation to determine monosodium glutamate's safety at significantly higher levels of consumption. Additional reports attempted to look at this. In 1986, FDA's Advisory Committee on Hypersensitivity to Food Constituents concluded that monosodium glutamate poses no threat to the general public but that reactions of brief duration might occur in some people. Other reports have given the following findings:
A 1991 report by the European Community's (EC) Scientific Committee for Foods reaffirmed monosodium glutamate's safety and classified its "acceptable daily intake" as "not specified", the most favourable designation for a food ingredient. In addition, the EC Committee said, "Infants, including prematures, have been shown to metabolize glutamate as efficiently as adults and therefore do not display any special susceptibility to elevated oral intakes of glutamate."
A 1992 report from the Council on Scientific Affairs of the American Medical Association stated that glutamate in any form has not been shown to be a "significant health hazard".
A 1995 FDA-commissioned report by the FASEB confirmed the safety assessments of the aforementioned Committees, but stated that an unknown percentage of the population may react to monosodium glutamate and develop a monosodium glutamate symptom complex when consuming more than 3 grams of monosodium glutamate alone. The report compiled several, mostly very non-specific and common, symptoms from anecdotal reports, including burning sensation in the back of the neck, forearms and chest, numbness in the back of the neck, radiating to the arms and back, tingling, warmth and weakness in the face, temples, upper back, neck and arms, facial pressure or tightness, chest pain, headache, nausea, rapid heartbeat, bronchospasm, drowsiness, weakness, and sweating.[6]
A 2002 report found that rats fed on diets supplemented with 10% and 20% pure monosodium glutamate suffered retina degeneration, possibly through glutamate accumulation in the vitreous humour. However, such extreme amounts are more than one order of magnitude higher than those used for flavoring or found in foods.[7]
So only a small percentage of the population might get problems if they eat 3 grams of pure MSG, and rats get eye injuries when they eat food with 10%-20% pure MSG. But this is just not something people do. To gain the full effect of the food-enhancing properties of MSG, only a 1/3 teaspoon is enough for a meal for a whole family, maybe 0.1-0.2 gram. And there is several things that we consider harmless that might be dangerous in large doses. For example if you eat 20-40 grams of nutmeg, then you might die, or at least suffer from terrible hallucinations for days. But this don't make nutmeg something dangerous for the food.
Conclusion: The results suggest that large doses of MSG given without food may elicit more symptoms than a placebo in individuals who believe that they react adversely to MSG. However, neither persistent nor serious effects from MSG ingestion are observed, and the responses were not consistent on retesting
So placebo studies have shown that there is no harmful effects from MSG, even in large doses. So when people do experience uncomfort from digesting MSG this is probably because they expect MSG to be something bad for them.
http://www.newscientist.com/article/...hop-suey-.html
Monosodium glutamate is innocent. Australian scientists say it is not responsible for the peculiar sensations some people experience after eating Chinese food. A flushed face, palpitations, weakness and numbness are all symptoms of Chinese restaurant syndrome. But they are probably caused by a 'cocktail' of other components in the food or by too many glasses of wine.
Chemist Leonid Tarasoff and statistician Michael Kelly of the University of Western Sydney recently completed a double-blind study on 71 volunteers of the effects of high doses of MSG before a standard breakfast. Some reaction to MSG was experienced by 15 per cent of the volunteers. However, 14 per cent also reported aftereffects when given a placebo of gelatin powder. 'Most had no reaction at all to MSG or the placebo,' says Tarasoff.
Participants fasted overnight. Then, for three mornings before a light breakfast, they were given either capsules containing a placebo, 1.5 grams of MSG, or 3 grams of MSG. On two other days, breakfast was followed by drinks which contained no MSG or 3 grams of MSG. The drinks had sweet, bitter or sour tastes and a strong odour of grapefruit, so the MSG was masked. Volunteers received the capsules and drinks at random and researchers who monitored the sessions did not know which ones contained MSG.
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According to Tarasoff, the results show that MSG is a 'scapegoat'. He suspects that the real villains of Chinese restaurant syndrome are compounds called histamines. These form during the fermentation of ingredients common to Chinese cooking such as soy sauce, black beans and shrimp paste. Researchers at the US National Institutes of Health have shown that cramp, headaches, palpitations and flushing can be produced by between 25 and 50 milligrams of histamine.
Tarasoff and Kelly speculate in a paper published last month in Food and Chemical Toxicology that the symptoms of Chinese restaurant syndrome could also be produced by allergenic proteins, preservatives, food dyes, or high salt levels in the food.
And that there might be other things that are more dangerous.
I've read that only one meal of sausages or other types of processed meats a week is enough to double the chance of many forms of cancer.
And I am sure that no matter what we eat, we will get sick and die from something.
"It is not what comes in the mouth that makes unclean, but what goes out it"
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