Evolution vs. The Laws of Physics

the_malevolent_milk_man · #**111** 29th November 2003, 11:30 PM

Bah! I missed this over the holidays. I would just like to add in my 2 cents towards the OP and what seems to be the past 11 pages of nonsense.

..... Are you serious?..... I am reminded of the prhase "religiously handicapped" that I heard not long ago in general apologetics.

Data · #**112** 30th November 2003, 07:07 AM

I've been away for a week, but one thing.

"Show me a web-page, or a book, that would prove such a theory. Because I have never heard of that one...."

You've honestly never heard of plate techtonics!?
I feel sad for Americas school system. O_o

pureone · #**113** 30th November 2003, 12:13 PM

Originally Posted by Data

I've been away for a week, but one thing.

"Show me a web-page, or a book, that would prove such a theory. Because I have never heard of that one...."

You've honestly never heard of plate techtonics!?
I feel sad for Americas school system. O_o

Don't cry for it... It's already dead.

lucaspa · #**114** 30th November 2003, 12:36 PM

Originally Posted by DLraing

Thousands of years of human thought, debate, logic, reasoning and religion; and, in all that time only one fundamental truth has arisen: that is, the truth is entirely subjective. Please, someone disagree and "prove" me right

Is the earth flat? Have we proved the earth is not flat? Yes.

Is the earth the center of the solar system? Have we proved that the earth is not the center of the solar system? Yes.

Is protein the hereditary material? Have we proved that protein is not the hereditary material? Yes.

Deductive reasoning used on objective, intersubjective data gives you objective truth. True statements cannot have false consequences. That's not subjective, but objective.

The problem is that "prove" is used for positive statements. People forget that the negative statements are also "proved".

lucaspa · #**115** 30th November 2003, 12:39 PM

Originally Posted by DLraing

People like Lyle (and Hovind) don't believe so much in the inerrancy of the bible as much as they believe in the inerrancy of their interpretations. This sort of elitist mindset is counterproductive to spreading their faith and they dont even know it.

It depends on what faith they are spreading. If you refer to Christianity, then no. But if you are referring to the worship of them then yes, believing in the inerrancy of their interpretations is very productive to spreading the faith that they are gods.

lucaspa · #**116** 30th November 2003, 12:46 PM

Originally Posted by Lyle

I think it may be the fact that there are so many MAJOR errors with the History, Theology, Science, and the fact the portions of it are missing... Even whole chapter have been eaten by dogs....

LOL! Pot, meet kettle. Everything you said applies equally well to Christianity or even more so. Whole books were burned in Christianity. Hundreds of them. Around 500 AD after the canon had been set at 4 gospels, one bishop complained that there were still over 400 gospels circulating in his bishopric! What happened to all these? Burned.

Look up Infant Gospel of Thomas
Gospel of Thomas
Gospel of Peter
Cross Gospel

These are all that is left of a once bounty of gospels.

Now, look up Buccailism in Islam. This is a movement purporting to the scientific accuracy of the Quran.

Of course, around here we never say that the Bible is lacking in scientific accuracy, do we?

lucaspa · #**117** 30th November 2003, 12:52 PM

Originally Posted by Lyle

Islam: What you have, or may not have known about it

An article I wrote

You call that an article? WOW! I've been calling mine "posts".

It makes you OP on this thread look good. I didn't think that was possible. I particularly choked on that part of "God is love" and Allah can't know love because he is one. You do realize that you destroyed monotheism with that paragraph on God being 3 different entities, don't you? As well as mangling Trinity beyond recognition.

Don't take this wrong, but perhaps you ought to be quiet until you've done some study of Christian theology. With friends like you, Christianity doesn't need any enemies.