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31st May 2009, 06:04 PM
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Prince Harry?
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31st May 2009, 07:06 PM
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Reps: 6,219,293,571 (power: 6,219,299) | | | Although the Windsor family is quiet powerful in this world, and Prince Harry has made some stupid mistakes, like wearing the nazi uniform, he probably isn't the Anti-Christ.
One of the most important prophecies concerning the Anti-Christ is the Anti-Christ will deny the God of his fathers. That means he's going to say he is an Atheist.
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Reps: 211,111,524,480,703,456 (power: 211,111,524,480,716) | | Originally Posted by visionary  Here is something to think about.. Satan and angels are not known to possess the human body. Demons on the other hand can seem to be happy outside the body, and are always looking to dwell in .. even pigs.
Satan when He comes as the "bright" and glorious one who will do his best to be an image of Christ, can not do two things, .. he can not be Holy, and He can not come in the flesh. right, not in the flesh, but Gabriel and Michael are very physical beings...so is Satan. Supernatural, not flesh and blood, but physical non the less...he will not be possessing anyone, but he will be here himself, disguised as Christ. So looking for Satan in the body of a human is not going to happen. Looking for the earthly sidekicks who are going to be in allegiance with Satan is another matter. There seems to be quite a few of them, a female.. whore.. usually denoting a church.. riding political powers.. aka the beast. Then there is
Revelation 16:13
Then I saw three evil spirits that looked like frogs; they came out of the mouth of the dragon, out of the mouth of the beast and out of the mouth of the false prophet.
I have not figured out "dragon" in this verse, but the beast is "political" and the prophet is a " spokesman" for religious matters. 7And there was war in heaven: Michael and his angels fought against the dragon; and the dragon fought and his angels, 8And prevailed not; neither was their place found any more in heaven. 9And the great dragon was cast out, that old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan, which deceiveth the whole world: he was cast out into the earth, and his angels were cast out with him. Satan the devil is the dragon. 10And I heard a loud voice saying in heaven, Now is come salvation, and strength, and the kingdom of our God, and the power of his Christ: for the accuser of our brethren is cast down, which accused them before our God day and night. 11And they overcame him by the blood of the Lamb, and by the word of their testimony; and they loved not their lives unto the death. those being accused are the dead believers in heaven. the silence in heaven for 1/2 an hour is exactly the length of his reign on earth...the 2nd half of the Great Tribulation, when he is not in heaven any longer accusing the brethren...just as the deadly wound happens to the political beast. 12Therefore rejoice, ye heavens, and ye that dwell in them. Woe to the inhabiters of the earth and of the sea! for the devil is come down unto you, having great wrath, because he knoweth that he hath but a short time. Satan himself is coming here. his angelic body will be cast out of heaven and to the earth for a short season (the hour of temptation-Jacob's trouble-The Great Tribulation...he is the son of Perditionn that will be worshiped. he himself has the role of the false prophet (Jesus is the real prophet) 13And when the dragon saw that he was cast unto the earth, he persecuted the woman which brought forth the man child. he persecutes Israel. it is possible that this means the Jews of today, but IMO it does not....Israel includes those scattered abroad to the 4 winds/4 corners,...and are Christians(12 tribes not 1).....Israel does not = jews, and the elect are certainly not Jews that don't believe yet... how does he overcome them? he will overcome the Saints by his flood of lies...claiming to be Christ returned...and the people will buy into that lie and worship him, part of taking the mark of the beast....but many will come out of that deception Rev18:4. and some others were blinded by God Himself(2Thes2), thus innocent of taking the mark of the beast.....and will be saved in the Millennium, not in the flesh.(1Cor5) 14And to the woman were given two wings of a great eagle, that she might fly into the wilderness, into her place, where she is nourished for a time, and times, and half a time, from the face of the serpent. 15And the serpent cast out of his mouth water as a flood after the woman, that he might cause her to be carried away of the flood. the lies... 16And the earth helped the woman, and the earth opened her mouth, and swallowed up the flood which the dragon cast out of his mouth. 17And the dragon was wroth with the woman, and went to make war with the remnant of her seed, which keep the commandments of God, and have the testimony of Jesus Christ. Satan the devil himself is coming here...he is supernatural and will trick the world...he will deceive them (but the elect) into believing that he is Jesus returned. Don't look for any political leader today, he will be the one every one thinks is God (Jesus) returned....and will make a grand entrance....from above.
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Reps: 76,406,953,280,889 (power: 76,406,953,285) | | Originally Posted by GoodNewsJournalist Although the Windsor family is quiet powerful in this world, and Prince Harry has made some stupid mistakes, like wearing the nazi uniform, he probably isn't the Anti-Christ.
One of the most important prophecies concerning the Anti-Christ is the Anti-Christ will deny the God of his fathers. That means he's going to say he is an Atheist.
you get that from Daniel.. i dont accept that.. i think Daniel was talking about Herod.
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Originally Posted by visionary So then we have... a great imitation of Christ, the political power, and the "prophet" all saying the same thing... Is the political power ruler of the ten kings which has three over them? I call the Political power, the NWO or Babylon....seems to me that the 10 earthly kings set up the UNION (multiheaded beast) in the first 1/2 hour of the hour of temptation....but that the system fails, wars with itself...that is the deadly wound. WW3 around the corner kinda thing. Current day nations will break their World agreement and war...even though they were supposed to be unified. and just as WW3 is about to happen, Satan is cast out of heaven and here to earth for a short season. his entrance fools the world, as they believe that he is Jesus returning, and because they think he is Christ, the NWO system (Bablon) that received the deadly wound...is saved....he saves that world system (WW3 everted) and turns it into a religious system under him....and takes it over...implimenting his angelic ten kings to rule for the season of temptation/jacob's trouble/Great Tribulation. I reference Daniel2's toes and Rev17's one hour....
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Reps: 9,223,372,036,854,775,808 (power: 9,223,372,036,854,820) | | Originally Posted by zeke37 you can deny YHVH by claiming to be Him. It does not mean that he is an athiest...he is Satan cast to earth and certainly KNOWS that there is a God.
Yep.. the true author of replacement theology..
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Satan himself is the antiChrist
Note that Satan himself (the dragon) isn't the Antichrist (the beast), but the one who will empower the man who is the Antichrist (Revelation 13:4, 2 Thessalonians 2:9). The Antichrist will be cast into the lake of fire (Revelation 19:20) over 1,000 years before Satan is cast into the lake of fire (Revelation 20:7,10). The Antichrist and Satan are shown to be separate persons also in Revelation 16:13. zeke37 said:
Rev12 shows Satan cast here to earth for a short season, playing the false lamb of Rev13:11.
Actually, while Satan will be cast down to earth mid-tribulation (Revelation 12:9-17), he won't be the false lamb of Revelation 13:11-17. For the false lamb of Revelation 13:11-17 is the False Prophet of the Antichrist, who will be a man who will be cast into the lake of fire (Revelation 19:20) over 1,000 years before Satan is cast into the lake of fire (Revelation 20:7,10). The False Prophet and Satan are shown to be separate persons also in Revelation 16:13.
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18th June 2009, 01:28 PM
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Satan and angels are not known to possess the human body.
Satan could spiritually enter into the man who is the Antichrist, just as Satan spiritually entered into Judas (Luke 22:3). visionary said:
a female.. whore.. usually denoting a church.
While what the figurative harlot Babylon (Revelation chapters 17-18) represents could include the corrupt aspects of a church, what the harlot Babylon represents must include much more than just that, for no church reigns over the kings of the earth (Revelation 17:18), no church is the only place on the earth where people buy merchandise (Revelation 18:11), no church is responsible for the death of every martyr who has ever been killed (Revelation 18:24), no church has corrupted every nation on the earth (Revelation 18:3), and no church has been supported by all past empires throughout history (Revelation 17:7,9,10).
The harlot Babylon represents all of mankind's corrupt political (Revelation 17:18), economic (Revelation 18:11), and religious (Revelation 18:24) systems throughout the earth (Revelation 18:3) and throughout history (Revelation 17:9-10). visionary said:
Revelation 16:13
Then I saw three evil spirits that looked like frogs; they came out of the mouth of the dragon, out of the mouth of the beast and out of the mouth of the false prophet.
I have not figured out "dragon" in this verse
The dragon in Revelation 16:13 is Satan (Revelation 12:9). Revelation 16:13 shows that Satan, the man who is the Antichrist (the beast), and the man who is the False Prophet, are three separate persons.
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