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13th April 2009, 07:13 PM
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Reps: 7,588,915,901,392,743 (power: 7,588,915,901,403) | | Originally Posted by Super Kal  2 Thessalonians 2:3
Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition
the church... the very body of Christ... has fallen away 
what happens next, LJSGM?
Well, I think it silly that christians are so focused on one man that is just another person in the church, when they don't seem to worry or care about the church it's self. So much focus on this law or that law, and nothing about the love of Christ.
Do we see Christ's love manifest in the world? That is the question...
No, we need a great awakening. |
13th April 2009, 07:17 PM
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Reps: 112,441,593,711,950,576 (power: 112,441,593,711,957) | | Originally Posted by LJSGM Well, I think it silly that christians are so focused on one man that is just another person in the church, when they don't seem to worry or care about the church it's self. So much focus on this law or that law, and nothing about the love of Christ.
Do we see Christ's love manifest in the world? That is the question...
No, we need a great awakening.
I truly do believe that great awakening will come very, very soon...
Matthew 25:1-13
1 "Then the kingdom of heaven will be like ten virgins who took their lamps and went to meet the bridegroom.
2 Five of them were foolish, and five were wise.
3 For when the foolish took their lamps, they took no oil with them,
4 but the wise took flasks of oil with their lamps.
5 As the bridegroom was delayed, they all became drowsy and slept.
6 But at midnight there was a cry, 'Here is the bridegroom! Come out to meet him.'
7 Then all those virgins rose and trimmed their lamps.
8 And the foolish said to the wise, 'Give us some of your oil, for our lamps are going out.'
9 But the wise answered, saying, 'Since there will not be enough for us and for you, go rather to the dealers and buy for yourselves.'
10 And while they were going to buy, the bridegroom came, and those who were ready went in with him to the marriage feast, and the door was shut.
11 Afterward the other virgins came also, saying, 'Lord, lord, open to us.'
12 But he answered, 'Truly, I say to you, I do not know you.'
13 Watch therefore, for you know neither the day nor the hour.
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He knows that he will never be cudgelled into obedience nor wheedled like a petulant child into doing the will of God; he knows that these methods are unworthy both of God and of his own soul.
He knows he is free to make any choice he will, and with that knowledge he chooses forever the blessed will of God.” AW Tozer |
13th April 2009, 07:23 PM
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Reps: 40,143,535,222,134,136 (power: 0) | | Originally Posted by LJSGM Well, I think it silly that christians are so focused on one man that is just another person in the church, when they don't seem to worry or care about the church it's self. So much focus on this law or that law, and nothing about the love of Christ.
Do we see Christ's love manifest in the world? That is the question...
No, we need a great awakening.
There's a BIG difference between the showing the love of Christ and tolerating/being complicit in sin.
IF you support abortion masking it as some misdirected show of the "love of Christ", you are complicit in the sin of murder, for example.
Christ showed love, yes. Christ showed hate as well as righteous indignation too toward the godless and unrepentant sinners.
If Obama turns out to the anti-christ, will you still be saying that we need to get behind him and show the love of Christ to him and his evil policies or will you finally recognize evil for what it is?
Obama has yet to demonstrate ANY fruits that prove he is Christian in any way, shape or form.  |
13th April 2009, 07:24 PM
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Reps: 7,588,915,901,392,743 (power: 7,588,915,901,403) | | Originally Posted by Super Kal I truly do believe that great awakening will come very, very soon...
Matthew 25:1-13
1 "Then the kingdom of heaven will be like ten virgins who took their lamps and went to meet the bridegroom.
2 Five of them were foolish, and five were wise.
3 For when the foolish took their lamps, they took no oil with them,
4 but the wise took flasks of oil with their lamps.
5 As the bridegroom was delayed, they all became drowsy and slept.
6 But at midnight there was a cry, 'Here is the bridegroom! Come out to meet him.'
7 Then all those virgins rose and trimmed their lamps.
8 And the foolish said to the wise, 'Give us some of your oil, for our lamps are going out.'
9 But the wise answered, saying, 'Since there will not be enough for us and for you, go rather to the dealers and buy for yourselves.'
10 And while they were going to buy, the bridegroom came, and those who were ready went in with him to the marriage feast, and the door was shut.
11 Afterward the other virgins came also, saying, 'Lord, lord, open to us.'
12 But he answered, 'Truly, I say to you, I do not know you.'
13 Watch therefore, for you know neither the day nor the hour.
Well, I hope that the church awakens before that awakening happens! 
The next question is, what are WE doing to help the situation?  |
13th April 2009, 07:25 PM
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13th April 2009, 07:26 PM
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Reps: 7,588,915,901,392,743 (power: 7,588,915,901,403) | | Originally Posted by HisdaughterJen There's a BIG difference between the showing the love of Christ and tolerating/being complicit in sin.
IF you support abortion masking it as some misdirected show of the "love of Christ", you are complicit in the sin of murder, for example.
Christ showed love, yes. Christ showed hate as well as righteous indignation too toward the godless and unrepentant sinners.
If Obama turns out to the anti-christ, will you still be saying that we need to get behind him and show the love of Christ to him and his evil policies or will you finally recognize evil for what it is?
Obama has yet to demonstrate ANY fruits that prove he is Christian in any way, shape or form.
blah, blah, blah.... law, law, law...
You see what I mean super kal? |
13th April 2009, 07:33 PM
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13th April 2009, 07:34 PM
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Reps: 40,143,535,222,134,136 (power: 0) | | Originally Posted by LJSGM blah, blah, blah.... law, law, law...
You see what I mean super kal?
IS that going to be your defense when you stand before a Holy God on the Day of Judgment?
You are either with God or you are against Him. There is no middle ground. There is no fence-riding. There is no walking with God in the daylight and dancing with the devil at night. There is no saying, "I love God" while supporting the policies of evil and death.
Wake up! |
13th April 2009, 07:36 PM
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Reps: 7,588,915,901,392,743 (power: 7,588,915,901,403) | | Originally Posted by HisdaughterJen IS that going to be your defense when you stand before a Holy God on the Day of Judgment?
You are either with God or you are against Him. There is no middle ground. There is no fence-riding. There is no walking with God in the daylight and dancing with the devil at night.
Wake up!
Judge yourself first before you judge others!
You wake up!
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13th April 2009, 07:38 PM
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Reps: 112,441,593,711,950,576 (power: 112,441,593,711,957) | | Originally Posted by LJSGM I don't believe in "each man for himself."
I don't either, LJSGM Well, I hope that the church awakens before that awakening happens!
The next question is, what are WE doing to help the situation?
the only thing we can do as Followers in Christ: spread His Word. That's all we can do. We plant the seed, the Holy Spirit does the rest from within... unfortunately, it's not always successful, because people's hearts are hardened to the Word of God, hence the parable of the sower (Mark 13:1-23)
when it comes to Obama, I'm simply watching what he does... the time is getting closer and closer to the revealing of whoever the Antichrist is... Christ has commanded us to stay awake and keep watch, because even though we don't know the "day or hour" we will know the general time (Matthew 24:32-33)
__________________ The true saint is one who acknowledges that he possesses from God the gift of freedom.
He knows that he will never be cudgelled into obedience nor wheedled like a petulant child into doing the will of God; he knows that these methods are unworthy both of God and of his own soul.
He knows he is free to make any choice he will, and with that knowledge he chooses forever the blessed will of God.” AW Tozer | | |
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