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9th August 2008, 09:16 PM
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Originally Posted by xcrunner71  If Obama is the antichrist, do you guys think he knows his "true identity" or do you think he'll discover it later on?
I guess this applies to the antichrist in general, would he know he's the antichrist all along, or would it be a sudden dramatic realization upon the individual?
Satan is the antiChrist, an angelic man....a supernatural fallen angel, not a man of flesh...
Satan knows who he is, lol. |
9th August 2008, 09:26 PM
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Reps: 19,876,124 (power: 19,881) | | Originally Posted by zeke37 Satan is the antiChrist, an angelic man....a supernatural fallen angel, not a man of flesh...
Satan knows who he is, lol.
The antichrist is a man of flesh, FYI. 
He is Lucifer manifested into a man.
Rev 13:18
"This calls for wisdom: let anyone with understanding calculate the number of the beast, for it is the number of a person. Its number is six hundred sixty-six." |
9th August 2008, 09:51 PM
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Reps: 211,111,524,480,703,456 (power: 211,111,524,480,716) | | | Hi, I respectfully disagree...he is an angel...a fallen cherub....Satan/Lucifer/The Devil/The Dragon, not a human being. That is a fantasy created a long time ago by not understanding the symbolism involved in this son of Perdition's character.
Rev12 says that Satan is going to be cast out of heaven forever, and to the earth for a short season....and he shall go after that which Israel has become...us....by way of desception....
there is no scripture that I have come across that speaks of Satan inhabiting a man of flesh and that man being the antiChrist(instead of Christ)....rather that the Devil/Satan will be coming here "defacto" himself...not just spirit, but his angelic body as well, and that angelic body is supernatural...enough to fool the world by way of lies and miracles...
all the events that many suppose is done by a man of flesh (antiChrist/false prophet), is done by Satan himself. Satan is the one who is coming here to earth first, before Christ raptures anyone, to deceive the world into worshiping him, what he wanted back in Ez28.
Satan will play this role himself....and he is an angel, with his very own physical angelic body, that is going to be coming here....
1Cor5:5 says that God will blind many to the truth and deliver them to Satan, so that Our Father can TRULY Save them in the 1000 year day of the Lord.
Satan is coming here disguised as an angel of light 2Cor11....and, as all angels are physical, so is he...and supernatural with abilities that he shall use to con the world into believing that he is Jesus Christ returned to gather them...(Rev13:11f)(Rev6:2)
he is not going to indwell a person...that's what he did from heaven when he was casting his spirit here to earth, but since he will not be allowed in heaven anymore (Rev12), he shall not be posessing anyone here here on earth...he shall be pretending to be Jesus, all kind and loving and stuff.....peace, peace, peace.....
fooling the world into believing that lie with his supernatural angelic abilities....
most people will think he is Jesus Christ and worship him...it is the role that Satan always wanted, no other shall play it...and not only that, but I really believe that he will be no longer able to actually possess any person, once he is cast out of heaven to the earth for his short season...
in Christ's name
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9th August 2008, 10:23 PM
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Reps: 19,876,124 (power: 19,881) | | | So do you think the antichrist will be a random body that suddenly appears one day? or do you think he could be like barack obama, living a whole life on earth for his purpose later on (being a baby, toddler, adolescent, adult, etc.). |
9th August 2008, 11:22 PM
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Reps: 311,591,074,136,320,640 (power: 311,591,074,136,335) | | Originally Posted by xcrunner71 The antichrist is a man of flesh, FYI.
He is Lucifer manifested into a man.
Rev 13:18
"This calls for wisdom: let anyone with understanding calculate the number of the beast, for it is the number of a person. Its number is six hundred sixty-six." Yep, it is a man indwelt by Satan, just as Judas was indwelt by Satan. Not a hard thing to accomplish since it has been done before.
John 13:26-28 ~ Jesus answered, He it is, to whom I shall give a sop, when I have dipped it. And when he had dipped the sop, he gave it to Judas Iscariot, the son of Simon.
27 And after the sop Satan entered into him. Then said Jesus unto him, That thou doest, do quickly.
28 Now no man at the table knew for what intent he spake this unto him. |
9th August 2008, 11:50 PM
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Reps: 19,876,124 (power: 19,881) | | | My opinion of the antichrist is that it will be somebody that was/is close to God at one point, then a dramatic event pushes him so far away from God, all that's left is rage and a willing desire to overcome God.
A prime example of this character downfall would be Two-Face in Batman, he was once close to batman then an event turned his mind upside down and inside out. He turned out to be the most twisted villain in the end. Was also the most tragic.
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Reps: 1,179,057,138,807,419 (power: 0) | | Originally Posted by zeke37 Hi, I respectfully disagree...he is an angel...a fallen cherub....Satan/Lucifer/The Devil/The Dragon, not a human being. That is a fantasy created a long time ago by not understanding the symbolism involved in this son of Perdition's character.
Rev12 says that Satan is going to be cast out of heaven forever, and to the earth for a short season....and he shall go after that which Israel has become...us....by way of desception....
Dosn't make him the beast, he gives power to the beast.
Revelation 13
2 And the beast which I saw was like unto a leopard, and his feet were as the feet of a bear, and his mouth as the mouth of a lion: and the dragon gave him his power, and his seat, and great authority.
satan gives the beast his power, and his seat, and great authority.
there is no scripture that I have come across that speaks of Satan inhabiting a man of flesh and that man being the antiChrist(instead of Christ)....rather that the Devil/Satan will be coming here "defacto" himself...not just spirit, but his angelic body as well, and that angelic body is supernatural...enough to fool the world by way of lies and miracles...
all the events that many suppose is done by a man of flesh (antiChrist/false prophet), is done by Satan himself. Satan is the one who is coming here to earth first, before Christ raptures anyone, to deceive the world into worshiping him, what he wanted back in Ez28.
Satan will play this role himself....and he is an angel, with his very own physical angelic body, that is going to be coming here....
1Cor5:5 says that God will blind many to the truth and deliver them to Satan, so that Our Father can TRULY Save them in the 1000 year day of the Lord.
Satan is coming here disguised as an angel of light 2Cor11....and, as all angels are physical, so is he...and supernatural with abilities that he shall use to con the world into believing that he is Jesus Christ returned to gather them...(Rev13:11f)(Rev6:2)
he is not going to indwell a person...that's what he did from heaven when he was casting his spirit here to earth, but since he will not be allowed in heaven anymore (Rev12), he shall not be posessing anyone here here on earth...he shall be pretending to be Jesus, all kind and loving and stuff.....peace, peace, peace.....
That's not speaking as a dragon.
Revelation 13
11 And I beheld another beast coming up out of the earth; and he had two horns like a lamb, and he spake as a dragon.
A diffrent beast, this one the false prophet but there alike, he gives power to the first beast, and guess what, satan gives power to them both.
fooling the world into believing that lie with his supernatural angelic abilities....
Yeah sure fooling the world with his dragon like speech that he is Jesus.
most people will think he is Jesus Christ and worship him...it is the role that Satan always wanted, no other shall play it...and not only that, but I really believe that he will be no longer able to actually possess any person, once he is cast out of heaven to the earth for his short season...
in Christ's name
c Much here is not Bibical but out of a mans head (sectarian). Also, when satan is cast into the lake of fire, the beast-a/c and the false prophet are already there. Revelation 20
10 And the devil that deceived them was cast into the lake of fire and brimstone, where the beast and the false prophet are, and shall be tormented day and night for ever and ever. I know you won't believe these verses because they have been given you time after and you still say the same old lies that go against these scriptures. Zec 11:17"Woe to the worthless shepherd, who deserts the flock! May the sword strike his arm and his right eye! May his arm be completely withered, his right eye totally blinded!" Was satan ever one of the flock-jewish? |
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Reps: 1,179,057,138,807,419 (power: 0) | | | zeek37, are you wrong in saying the beast-a/c will be satan,
Or are these scriptures wrong?
John 13:26-28 ~ Jesus answered, He it is, to whom I shall give a sop, when I have dipped it. And when he had dipped the sop, he gave it to Judas Iscariot, the son of Simon.
27 And after the sop Satan entered into him. Then said Jesus unto him, That thou doest, do quickly.
28 Now no man at the table knew for what intent he spake this unto him.
Revelation 13
2 And the beast which I saw was like unto a leopard, and his feet were as the feet of a bear, and his mouth as the mouth of a lion: and the dragon gave him his power, and his seat, and great authority.
Revelation 20
10 And the devil that deceived them was cast into the lake of fire and brimstone, where the beast and the false prophet are, and shall be tormented day and night for ever and ever.
Zec 11:17"Woe to the worthless shepherd, who deserts the flock! May the sword strike his arm and his right eye! May his arm be completely withered, his right eye totally blinded!"
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10th August 2008, 03:26 AM
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Originally Posted by xcrunner71 So do you think the antichrist will be a random body that suddenly appears one day? yes, Satan cast from heaven, making a grand entrance or do you think he could be like barack obama, living a whole life on earth for his purpose later on (being a baby, toddler, adolescent, adult, etc.). no, never born a man....but is a supernatural angel. Originally Posted by Big Mouth Nana Yep, it is a man indwelt by Satan, just as Judas was indwelt by Satan. Not a hard thing to accomplish since it has been done before.
John 13:26-28 ~ Jesus answered, He it is, to whom I shall give a sop, when I have dipped it. And when he had dipped the sop, he gave it to Judas Iscariot, the son of Simon.
27 And after the sop Satan entered into him. Then said Jesus unto him, That thou doest, do quickly.
28 Now no man at the table knew for what intent he spake this unto him. IMO, Satan is not yet cast from haven to the earth...I realize that we disagree on this point, but that is what I believe..that short season is not yet here...and when it comes, Satan's supernatural angelic body will be here on it's very own, not needing to indwell a human...nor do I believe that he will have that ability as he does today (or with Judas) for he will be cast from heaven (where that is possible), to the earth (where it is not)...IMO. satan will be here himself...in his very own angelic body, as real as all other angels bodies are...very physical and supernatural....supernatural enough to fool the world into believing that his miracles prove that he is Christ returned. Originally Posted by xcrunner71 My opinion of the antichrist is that it will be somebody that was/is close to God at one point, Satan, as the protecting cherub in Ez28...happened a long time ago... then a dramatic event pushes him so far away from God, all that's left is rage and a willing desire to overcome God.
A prime example of this character downfall would be Two-Face in Batman, he was once close to batman then an event turned his mind upside down and inside out. He turned out to be the most twisted villain in the end. Was also the most tragic.
Just some thoughts. he will not be a possessed man....that is such a shame to see people accusing their fellow human brother as being the son of Perdition.... it is a role set for Satan alone, and no other...he has his own physical angelic body that will fool the world. in Christ's service c | | |
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