All religions are good!

Epiphoskei · #11 20th July 2008, 01:28 AM

Originally Posted by fil3232003

All preaches the WAY to ETERNAL LIFE of bliss and happiness.

Here's the other problem. They don't. They all preach their way, but they don't preach the way. The way is through the crucified Christ. Their ways are not and do not lead where they purport to go.

+Zero+ · #12 20th July 2008, 03:30 AM

Originally Posted by fil3232003

The general view is ALL religions are GOOD. For which religion does not preach and advocate morality, goodness, decency and probity? All preaches the WAY to ETERNAL LIFE of bliss and happiness.

But on careful scrutiny, the conclusion is based on different HUMAN standards.

Any feedback?

True Christians acknowledge that Jesus Christ is the only way... period. And the theory that all religions lead to heaven is just a New Age rehash of a lie that has probably been going for countless years. We have a moral law giver and just judge (God), and we have a fallable mankind which is in an utterly lost and deprave state without Jesus. Wouldn't it be pretty foolish to listen to a lost human standard? How can one have a reliable human standard in the first place? I'm sure there are civilizations and different people in the world, while still human, that prefer to eat their neighbors as opposed to loving them. And in the end, thats the problem with humanism and relative morality, there are so many "standards" and manmade "moral laws" that (with all those different human "standards") someone could cherry pick what feels good to them. And in that case, you wouldn't have a standard, you'd have chaos.

Jesus Christ is the Truth, and there is no other way to the Father, or to heaven, but by the Risen Lord. God's standard is the ultimate measuring stick for humanity, and His Words will not pass away.

I hope this made sense.

In Christ,
Zero.

Nadiine · #13 20th July 2008, 09:53 AM

All religions are good!

............good for what??

Nadiine · #14 20th July 2008, 02:02 PM

Originally Posted by Godschild87

Yes. Just because all religions might be considered good by some (which is pretty subjective and worthless) does not mean that all are right or true. And Christianity is in stark contrast to all others when its founder makes a claim like, "I am the way and the truth and the life, no one comes to the Father but by me." Pretty exclusive if you ask anyone with half a brain. So, you have two options- either Christianity is right or it is wrong. If it is right, then the implications are literally of eternal consequence. If it is wrong, we must figure out which, if any, is right.

Now, what is your feedback to the simple logic?

That's the problem, they can't keep it simple and hold this view that all religions are good.

Spinning webs by tweaking definitions to create a contradictive statement that sounds like all religions are right/true. (& if so, then Christianity is TRUE for and over everyone).

& How is something "good or right" when it leads you to a destructive and harmful eternal end??? (which if Christianity is true would be the outcome for all rejecting that God).

It's very simple, but relativism & subjectivism confuses & clouds the simple truths and sways people in other directions.

It also doesn't prove true for people in harmful cults - they may be brainwashed & believing what that religious leader says, but it can easily be harming them or their poor children without their knowledge.
*remembers news stories about Jim Jone's koolaide festival*

misfitforfaith · #15 21st July 2008, 08:09 AM

The general view is ALL religions are GOOD. For which religion does not preach and advocate morality, goodness, decency and probity? All preaches the WAY to ETERNAL LIFE of bliss and happiness.

But on careful scrutiny, the conclusion is based on different HUMAN standards.

Any feedback?

You have alot to learn not only about religion also human nature Good luck!!

Jaws13 · #16 21st July 2008, 10:43 PM

Originally Posted by misfitforfaith

You have alot to learn not only about religion also human nature Good luck!!

If you are going to imply that someone is wrong, at least have the guts to attempt to correct them. I am sure if I told you that you had a lot to learn you would want to know what I was talking about.

christianmomof3 · #17 21st July 2008, 10:50 PM

Only God is good.
Lk 18:19 And Jesus said unto him, Why callest thou me good? none is good, save one, that is, God.

beforHim · #18 21st July 2008, 11:31 PM

Well I'd say step one would be defining terms, or else you get ambiguous words.

The general view is ALL religions are GOOD. For which religion does not preach and advocate morality, goodness, decency and probity? All preaches the WAY to ETERNAL LIFE of bliss and happiness.

All the underlines are words we'd need to get clear terms for, for if what we're arguing is goodness, or ETERNAL LIFE, or happiness, is not what they're arguing, then we're really not communicating at all. Example-

Me- "That guy is light."
You- "Jesus is the only person who's light."
Me- "Uhm, no He's not, my baby sister is VERY light."
You- "Babies have sin too, you know."
Me- "What does that have to do with being light? I bet Jesus weighs more than her."
Me and You- *exchange glances* "lol!"

So now you see what I mean. And words like goodness, morality, the WAY, don't have near as clear cut meanings.

So I'd say that is definitely step one, try and find out what each other means by goodness, or else you'll never have an intellectual discussion. Hope this helps!

ikonographics · #19 22nd July 2008, 02:18 AM

Christianity is not a religion. Religion is man searching for God. Christianity is God revealing himself to man. In all religions the purpose of life is to become morally a better person. Christ was not yet another "ethical role model".The world already had plenty of them. Christ took on our fallen human nature in order to heal it and to reunite man to God, not ethically but ontologically. No other religion can do that.

Nadiine · #20 22nd July 2008, 06:55 AM

Originally Posted by beforHim

Well I'd say step one would be defining terms, or else you get ambiguous words.

All the underlines are words we'd need to get clear terms for, for if what we're arguing is goodness, or ETERNAL LIFE, or happiness, is not what they're arguing, then we're really not communicating at all. Example-

Me- "That guy is light."
You- "Jesus is the only person who's light."
Me- "Uhm, no He's not, my baby sister is VERY light."
You- "Babies have sin too, you know."
Me- "What does that have to do with being light? I bet Jesus weighs more than her."
Me and You- *exchange glances* "lol!"

So now you see what I mean. And words like goodness, morality, the WAY, don't have near as clear cut meanings.

So I'd say that is definitely step one, try and find out what each other means by goodness, or else you'll never have an intellectual discussion. Hope this helps!

Not only do correct definitions of terms have to be used, but then you have to KNOW every single religion that exists and existed to even make such a claim and include every single one.

If somebody wants to tell me that the Jim Jones cult in Guyana was a "good" religion (becuz it was a religion), then you're telling me that a warped dictator using "God" who led hundreds of men, women & children to their deaths thru toxic koolaide is "GOOD" religion.

Are you going to convince a loved one of a person who was ruined by a cult that the religion their relative/friend engaged in was "good"? nope, it won't float.

& Let's go thru all the cults that exist and existed - and that includes the radical Islam groups that openly promote hatred against the Jews, Christians & all "infidels"... they create the terrorists who torture and murder people as a hobby for Allah.

Sorry but, this thread statement is just false even IF you want to define it wrongly.