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Old 13th July 2008, 02:50 PM
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Originally Posted by Alexandrah View Post
No, you are not a bad person because you are gay. You are a bad person because you are allowing your spouse to believe she is married to someone that loves her and is sexually attracted to her. If you loved her or valued her as a person you would be honest with her and allow her to make her own choices--instead of forcing your life choices on her.
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Old 13th July 2008, 03:07 PM
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Originally Posted by Robert Reed View Post
My name is Robert Reed. For the past fifteen years I have struggled with my homosexuality, even though it conflicts with my faith. I am married and I have a daughter. I have threatened many of my gay lovers because of my conflict and that I don't want my loving wife to find out. I ask you if there's anything I can do to help myself?
Are you a bad person, you ask? No. But you are a sinner.

Recommend ditching the gay lovers and be honest with your wife. If you are having sex with them, and you are married, then you are committing adultery as well. Adultery, deceitfulness, and homosexual actions are all sin. Sounds like you are in a mess on multiple levels. This could have disasterous effects for you and your family. Tread carefully and seek God's glory above all.
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Old 13th July 2008, 03:17 PM
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I always wonder with these types of phony posts...

Is it a test to see what the conservatives will say? Is it a test to see what the lefties will say? Is it a test to see if everyone is so hung up on the issue they won't notice that it's a "scenario"? Is it someone soo afraid they might be identified that they use a similar scenario to cover up their real one.. (because obviously while this is obviously the real robert reed story it's not exactly unheard of...)
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The opening post was fake?
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Old 13th July 2008, 04:57 PM
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Well, yes, that is the general consensus.

In any case, in such a situation:
Be honest with yourself and everyone else. Don't try to be a person you aren't.
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Old 13th July 2008, 10:04 PM
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Originally Posted by Tackleberry View Post
The opening post was fake?
Are you joking- or did you ignore the rest of the thread?

ROBERT REED played mike brady- he was a closeted (although the closet door much have been see through) gay man who was married for about 20 years and had a daughter with his wife. He allegedly used to threaten the men he had affairs with to keep them from outing him.
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Originally Posted by wanderingone View Post
I always wonder with these types of phony posts...

Is it a test to see what the conservatives will say? Is it a test to see what the lefties will say? Is it a test to see if everyone is so hung up on the issue they won't notice that it's a "scenario"? Is it someone soo afraid they might be identified that they use a similar scenario to cover up their real one.. (because obviously while this is obviously the real robert reed story it's not exactly unheard of...)
Does it matter? How about providing good, honest help and advice.

This may be a joke, but there may be others that this thread helps.
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Originally Posted by Molal View Post
Does it matter? How about providing good, honest help and advice.

This may be a joke, but there may be others that this thread helps.
Actually I did give an honest and simple answer before pointing out that is was a fake... but yes it DOES matter, joke scenarios don't help people -- they are always exposed as fakes - making all the advice seem foolish and those who didn't catch on are just fodder for the folks who would like to point out that many people are too hung up on certain issues, beliefs, agendas to see the forest for the trees. (and yuck I know I used a cliche..... almost as bad as fake posts)
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I thought this post was on the level to begin with, and I feel a little put out now to find out it was a fake. Thanks to all who pointed out it wasn't genuine.

I just hope that someone who is going through something similar gets some advice to help them when reading the replies.
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Originally Posted by Melancholy View Post
I thought this post was on the level to begin with, and I feel a little put out now to find out it was a fake. Thanks to all who pointed out it wasn't genuine.

I just hope that someone who is going through something similar gets some advice to help them when reading the replies.
Well.. I feel bad pointing it out for anyone who didn't catch it.. and at first I put in the "say hi to florence for me" then took it out, then put it back in... I don't want to pick on those who don't remember robert reed's name --I mean it's not like he's hall of fame material.. and if you didn't grow up on the brady bunch-- plus like I said.. it's not an unheard of scenario. What I posted stands as what I would tell someone in such a situation, I still find such little jokes meant to pick on the well meaning interest of others a bit insulting.
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