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Old 13th July 2008, 12:09 AM
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No, you are not a bad person. Ethically, it's hard to defend being in a sexual relationship outside of marriage. That's something you can and should control. There's nothing wrong with homosexuality - it's perfectly natural, and (despite what some may tell you), it's a genetic trait, not a choice. You should not be ashamed of it or uncomfortable about it, it's a part of who you are. However, you must start being honest with your wife and daughter. I would suggest seeing a professional therapist first, preferably not a religious one, as they are more likely to (consciously or unconsciously) attempt to impose their religious beliefs on you. See a psychologist. Get your head straight, then you need to talk to your wife. Do you still love her? Marriage isn't all about sex.
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Old 13th July 2008, 01:03 AM
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You are not a bad person. I actually know someone who was in a similar situation. He was married for 25 years before he realized he was gay, and he was just honest with his wife. That's what you need to do. Good luck
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Old 13th July 2008, 02:29 AM
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Robert Reed?
I call POE.

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Originally Posted by Robert Reed View Post
My name is Robert Reed. For the past fifteen years I have struggled with my homosexuality, even though it conflicts with my faith. I am married and I have a daughter. I have threatened many of my gay lovers because of my conflict and that I don't want my loving wife to find out. I ask you if there's anything I can do to help myself?
First, never post your real life info on the internet. Hopefuly that is not your real name. Or you do want your "wife" to know. Which of course she should in any case. And, what is your "faith?"

"If," your faith is the one "delivered only once to the Saints," you should find a support group to stop commiting adultery, and you SHOULD Tell your wife (who of course would be a woman according to the faith written about in the Bible. You may be a pagan for all I know.

Who "told" you you were "gay?" Gay is a neologism to denote homosexuality. Homosexuality is a thought or an action. Nothing more than that. Don't get infleunced by delusions and base sexual desires.

You are indeed "a bad person" for having sex with men and having sex with your wife with her not being informed of the danger you are putting her in.

BUT!!!!! Repentance and forgiveness of your sins is also a fact in the "Faith delivered only once to the Saints."

Most importantly, IF your wife doesn't divorce you, which she has every right to do, you should focus on the beauty of her as a person and the incredible nature of the relationship God has put you in. Start seeing your wife as yourself and realize that gay is a belief system that can be overcome with the realization that the beauty of the relationship of a husband and a wife (immutably man and woman) transcends the base desires of our common selfish nature to arrive at the beauty of God. Your beauty created a child. That beauty is indescribable.

Now, start from the beautiful and go from there.
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Old 13th July 2008, 10:42 AM
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And what woman wouldn't want a Will and Grace (not their real names) relationship?
Am I right ladies? A guy who will go shopping with you at Barney's and tell you what makes you look hot and what makes you look like a soccer mom, and then you can watch Mr. and Mrs. Smith, and talk about how cute Brad Pitt is?
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Originally Posted by Beanieboy View Post
And what woman wouldn't want a Will and Grace (not their real names) relationship?
Am I right ladies? A guy who will go shopping with you at Barney's and tell you what makes you look hot and what makes you look like a soccer mom, and then you can watch Mr. and Mrs. Smith, and talk about how cute Brad Pitt is?
totally !!
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Originally Posted by Beanieboy View Post
Robert Reed?
I call POE.

Level with Carol that you are in love with Greg. It will break Marcia's heart, but she will live.


Ha! the story is exactly the same.

"Reed was briefly married to Marilyn Rosenberg (1957-1959). The union produced one daughter, Caroline Reed, who was born 1958. Caroline had a small role in an episode of The Brady Bunch entitled, "The Slumber Caper." Her character's name was Karen and she is credited as "Carolyn Reed". This episode also reunited Reed with his co-star from The Defenders, E.G. Marshall. Reed was secretive about his sexuality.[4] Several of his partners have since come out and stated that he threatened them after sex, that he wanted his homosexuality to remain hidden. On the Brady Bunch anniversary, "Still Brady after All these Years," the cast mentioned him taking co-star Florence Henderson out to dinner several times.
Robert Reed died in 1992 at age 59 in Pasadena, California, from bladder cancer; he was suffering from complications of AIDS at the time. He is buried in Skokie, Illinois."



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Old 13th July 2008, 02:44 PM
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Originally Posted by Polycarp_fan View Post
First, never post your real life info on the internet. Hopefuly that is not your real name.
But he's dead... so I think he's safe
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Originally Posted by Alexandrah View Post


Ha! the story is exactly the same.

"Reed was briefly married to Marilyn Rosenberg (1957-1959). The union produced one daughter, Caroline Reed, who was born 1958. Caroline had a small role in an episode of The Brady Bunch entitled, "The Slumber Caper." Her character's name was Karen and she is credited as "Carolyn Reed". This episode also reunited Reed with his co-star from The Defenders, E.G. Marshall. Reed was secretive about his sexuality.[4] Several of his partners have since come out and stated that he threatened them after sex, that he wanted his homosexuality to remain hidden. On the Brady Bunch anniversary, "Still Brady after All these Years," the cast mentioned him taking co-star Florence Henderson out to dinner several times.
Robert Reed died in 1992 at age 59 in Pasadena, California, from bladder cancer; he was suffering from complications of AIDS at the time. He is buried in Skokie, Illinois."



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Originally Posted by Beanieboy View Post
And what woman wouldn't want a Will and Grace (not their real names) relationship?
Am I right ladies? A guy who will go shopping with you at Barney's and tell you what makes you look hot and what makes you look like a soccer mom, and then you can watch Mr. and Mrs. Smith, and talk about how cute Brad Pitt is?
Hmm.. well yeah... after a dozen + years of marriage I personally would be thrilled to find out I was really not a wife, just a [wash my mouth][wash my mouth][wash my mouth] hag...
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