I, personally, don't care for it. I don't know why it matters if someone IS into it. Didn't jesus say something about how nothing that happens in the marriage bed can defile it? Its not hurting anyone, why do you care?
Actually it is:
Marriage should be honored by all, and the marriage bed kept pure, for God will judge the adulterer and all the sexually immoral.
I'm not going any further than that. (Yuck.) And if it isn't yuck, for you too, PLEASE don't come to my Church. There are other "Churches" that celebrate that kind of stuff. Literally.
And that also puts to rest the false teaching of "gay marriage" in the Church. Marriage is a man and a woman as taught by Jesus. Adultery is also a sin. "Go, and sin no more." Said Jesus. What position does a believer hold once they have repented? They are forgiven. And they are restored.
Why should Christians try to evangelize people that desire to refuse the Gospel?
HA you're hilarious.
Yes, naturally, i find you repugnant. Just as you use that word to describe homosexuals. But for some reason, you think it's acceptable for you, but not for me.
I'm sure pagans find Christian truth repugnant. This is where the word "duh" takes on the scholarly.
Hmmmm can you say 'double standard'?
Like promoting gay sex and then calling Christians that oppose that as haters? That includes every Apostle and Disciple. Heavy stuff your position holds.
You keep claiming that homosexuals are actively trying to turn everyone else gay. That isn't true.
Where do I state that? I am just claiming that GLBT's are encouraging people (and children at that) to engage in same-gender sex acts and, that that is completely OK. I'm wrong how?
You also claim that 'Christian" and "homosexual" are mutually exclusive terms.
That is true. The Bible is completely silent on Christians being encouraged to have gay sex. But it is NOT silent on NOT having gay sex. Paul, starts that ball rolling.
Again, not true. And thirdly, you claim that your personal opinions, beliefs, and interpretations are the God-given truth. NO ONE knows exactly what God wants. To claim so would be foolish, presumptuous, and prideful.
All I do is take a side. I side with Jesus and the Apostles.
So why not just get over it and deal with the fact that the world is full of different people with different beliefs and values? You want to believe these things, GO FOR IT. But what's the point in trying to convert the rest of the world to your view?
Where am I doing that or, promoting that? This thread is literally about that. Pagans can do what they wilteth.
Christians on the other hand are taught differently from the Gospel and witness of the NT writings.
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Trust me, unless I was coming to protest, I wouldn't be caught dead at your church.
Please feel free to protest anytime you would like. We won't run and hide. But, you will have to hear the Gospel the way it is written. And, the rest of the New Testament. But notice, I will not be coming to your organization to protest your beliefs. That will also keep your place from getting dusted.
You really don't pay much attention to the things you write, do you?
Originally Posted by Polycarp_fan
Like promoting gay sex and then calling Christians that oppose that as haters? That includes every Apostle and Disciple. Heavy stuff your position holds.
No, i call people who say that anyone who is not the same as them 'haters'. I call people who use false 'evidence' to make others appear to be evil 'haters'. I call people who take great pride and joy in bullying and belittling 'haters'. Christians who oppose homosexuality are not neccesarily haters; Christians who treat homosexuals as little more then animals are. People who know nothing about homosexuality, but spread lies as though they are truth, they are haters.
Originally Posted by Polycarp_fan
Where do I state that? I am just claiming that GLBT's are encouraging people (and children at that) to engage in same-gender sex acts and, that that is completely OK. I'm wrong how?
Oookay then... "encouraging people to engage in same-gender sex acts" is different from "trying to turn everyone else gay" how?
Who would want any child to engage in sex acts or any kind? That is the most ludicrous claim i have heard.
Christian and homosexual are not mutually exclusive terms. Go have a look, you will find countless churches and Christians who accept homosexuality. In the same way that you use your scriptures to legitimise denouncing homosexuals, they use them to accept all people into their church.
If I see any Fundamentalist Christian groups at Gay Pride this weekend, I shall approach them, offer them a hug and tell them Jesus loves them, and I love them.
Its the Christian thing to do when you see people being judgemental. The fact Im gay is irrelevant.
If I see any Fundamentalist Christian groups at Gay Pride this weekend, I shall approach them, offer them a hug and tell them Jesus loves them, and I love them.
They know that if they believe the Bible.
But unless they are forced to be where you people are marching by, for work reasons or shopping, why would Christians be at a gay pride parade? Jesus taught that encouraging people to sin was a greater sin.
Its the Christian thing to do when you see people being judgemental. The fact Im gay is irrelevant.
Not according to the witness of the Gospel and Apostles you see fit to ignore. Cafeteria Christianity has gotten the Church in the position it's in now. Being seen at Gay Pride parades encouraging the behaviors going on there is another example of Christians not living the way that "even" our adversaries know we should. No wonder we get such a bad rap.
By the time your grandchildren are here it will probably seem odd for them not to have experimented sexually with all sexes and sexualities. Perhaps the sexual mantra will be, "how are you really going to know unless you've tried it...."
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But unless they are forced to be where you people are marching by, for work reasons or shopping, why would Christians be at a gay pride parade? Jesus taught that encouraging people to sin was a greater sin.
Im sure that many Fundamentalist types will be there protesting the fact that people different from them can express themselves.
Originally Posted by Polycarp_fan
Not according to the witness of the Gospel and Apostles you see fit to ignore. Cafeteria Christianity has gotten the Church in the position it's in now. Being seen at Gay Pride parades encouraging the behaviors going on there is another example of Christians not living the way that "even" our adversaries know we should. No wonder we get such a bad rap.
Our "adverseries"? Imho its people being too judgemental that drives them from Christianity.