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Old 10th July 2008, 11:00 PM
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Originally Posted by Mling View Post
Chivalric man of my dreams? Does he ride a stallion and speak in poetry?

sorry, I'm not violating what would *truly* make me happy in favor of something out of a faerie tale.

Yes, because its better to settle for the 50% chance divorce rate marriages where there are absolutely no roles between man and woman, children are born out of wedlock(that is, if the child even happens to survive during his time in the womb), daycare is substituted instead of actual quality social interaction between children and parents, masculinity and femininity is suppressed , and God and any type of morality or chivalry is ignored and put in place for sterile ungodly moral relativism.

Good luck with that. Im sure since there are so many people with your type of attitude you should have no problem getting the divorce rate up to 60% by the end of 2010. The leftwing have had no problem pillaging and raping any type of decent family value ideals from society, so it should be no problem getting the percentages up to that.

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Old 10th July 2008, 11:03 PM
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Originally Posted by PetersKeys View Post
Yes, because its better to settle for the 50% chance divorce rate marriages where there are absolutely no roles between man and woman, children are born out of wedlock(that is, if the child even happens to survive during his time in the womb), daycare is substituted instead of actual quality social interaction between children and parents, masculinity and femininity is suppressed , and God and any type of morality or chivalry is ignored and put in place for sterile ungodly moral relativism.

Good luck with that. Im sure since there are so many people with your type of attitude you should have no problem getting the divorce rate up to 60% by the end of 2010.
Christian divorce rates are no better than anybody elses.

http://www.religioustolerance.org/chr_dira.htm
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Old 10th July 2008, 11:32 PM
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Originally Posted by PetersKeys View Post
Yes, because its better to settle for the 50% chance divorce rate marriages where there are absolutely no roles between man and woman, children are born out of wedlock(that is, if the child even happens to survive during his time in the womb), daycare is substituted instead of actual quality social interaction between children and parents, masculinity and femininity is suppressed , and God and any type of morality or chivalry is ignored and put in place for sterile ungodly moral relativism.

Good luck with that. Im sure since there are so many people with your type of attitude you should have no problem getting the divorce rate up to 60% by the end of 2010. The leftwing have had no problem pillaging and raping any type of decent family value ideals from society, so it should be no problem getting the percentages up to that.
I am curious to hear how you expect a child to get into my womb, as people with your beliefs tend to be the first to point out that biology doesn't allow procreation in my sorts of relationships.
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Originally Posted by SaintInChicago View Post
Gender roles are awesome.
Oh of course, placing people in assigned roles based simple biological differences, but ignore that people are way more complexed than roles is waaay awesome. Oh and if people step outside those roles, they're seen as lacking "femininity" or "masculinity." So if I'm someone who is chivalric, yet I'm a woman, that would be wrong in your view wouldn't it, because it's not my role to be chivalric.
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Originally Posted by quatona View Post
No, that´s an outdated model. Today´s chivalric man of your dreams anonymously posts anti-gay propaganda on a message board.
Mine does laundry... that's all it takes to be the man of my dreams (well that and scooping out the littler boxes) there's no chore I hate more than laundry... of course now that the teenager has pretty much taken over laundry it's not all the big a deal anymore.. he'll have to find a new way to impress me...
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Old 11th July 2008, 02:07 AM
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Originally Posted by cantata View Post
Real chivalry is doing the washing up.

Which makes me chivalrous rather frequently.
Me too.

Although m'fiancee insists that we're getting a dishwasher.

David.
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Old 11th July 2008, 03:06 AM
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Originally Posted by David Brider View Post
Although m'fiancee insists that we're getting a dishwasher.

David.
Dishwashers are the way to go although I still seem to be the one who stacks and destacks it
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Old 11th July 2008, 03:38 AM
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Originally Posted by Aerika View Post
Christian divorce rates are no better than anybody elses.

http://www.religioustolerance.org/chr_dira.htm
TrueChristians don´t get divorced. So the divorce rate of TrueChristians is 0%.
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Originally Posted by PetersKeys View Post
marriages where there are absolutely no roles between man and woman, children are born out of wedlock(that is, if the child even happens to survive during his time in the womb), daycare is substituted instead of actual quality social interaction between children and parents, masculinity and femininity is suppressed , and God and any type of morality or chivalry is ignored and put in place for sterile ungodly moral relativism.
Sounds almost like the perfect family to me.
  • No prescribed gender roles - instead, an appreciation of individual differences.
  • I'm not bothered about when children are born. I don't think it makes much difference whether you're married or not. If you're going to stay together, you don't need a piece of paper to say so.
  • Family planning.
  • The good fortune of a child to let go of its mother's skirts and meet other children early on in life. (I am so grateful for having been to childminders when I was little!)
  • I refuse to let either my femininity or masculinity go suppressed, so you're wrong about that one.
  • Better to have freethinking and tolerance than unfounded moral absolutism, wouldn't you say?
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Originally Posted by Polycarp_fan View Post
Talk about strawmen. You make out the GLBT community as next to monastery life of solemn and prayful monks.
Nope, that's not what I'm doing. I'm just pointing out that the labels gay, homosexual, bisexual, and lesbian, like the label "heterosexual", say nothing about sexual activity, but rather about to what gender of person someone is likely to be romantically and physically attracted.

You can spin it as you want to, but as the New Testament writers present Church life, same-gender sex acts are inappropriate for believers.
I've already pointed out elsewhere why I'm not convinced that the verses normally presented as being against same-gender sex acts don't present as strong a case as some would have us believe.

And GLBT is denoting who the adherants are having sex with.
And I repeat - no, it's denoting who they're likely to be romantically and physically attracted to.

The Gay Community and its Culture as fluffy bunny routine is not a sound position.
Well, it's a good job that I'm trying to present all LGBT folk as fluffy bunnies then, isn't it?

Christians do not oppose homosexuality because it is just an uncomfortable "idea." They oppose it for real reasons.
Not all Christians oppose homosexuality (I don't, for one, and there are many others on these boards who don't). And the reasons given for opposing homosexuality often don't make much sense.

I "really" like curvy blonde women (plural) but I don't act on it "as a Christian."
However, an attraction to curvy blonde women isn't a recognised sexual orientation. Heterosexuality, homosexuality, and bisexuality are. And the point I keep making is that one can be heterosexual, homosexual, or bisexual, without engaging in sexual acts.

Though thoughts can be sinful, (thanks loads Jesus) the issue with GLBT's is their desire to promote homosexual sex.
I know of no LGBT folk who "promote homosexual sex". If you do, then perhaps you could invite them to join in this thread, because I'd be very interested to discuss that with them. (I'd like to know exactly what you mean by "promoting homosexual sex" anyway - do you mean encouraging those who aren't homosexual to engage in homosexual sex?)

Reality maybe?
I doubt it.

David.
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