Homosexual and Christian are not mutually exclusive terms. The entire premise of the thread is based on a false dichotomy.
There are many anti-Christs. They come with a different Gospel everytime. It is exposed sooner or later.
In the New Testament witness, the behaviors inherent of homosexuality are mutally exclusive to the behaviors taught to Christians as to what Christians should and shouldn't do.
The animosity and outright screaming hatred from Gays and Lesbians towards Christians for "preaching" that gay sex is a sin, may be where your point loses its support.
Did Christians try to evangelize Nero? Did they try to evangelize people that engaged in same-gender sex acts and teach that these behaviors needed to be given up once they became Christians? No doubt. 2000-years later and here we are.
As we have seen from another thread there is not one place where same-gender sexual unions are promoted or encouraged IN the New Testament witness. The Apostles taught that marriage was a man and a woman. Never once do we see a same-gender example. Anyone trying to claim that pre-marital sex, promiscuity or monogamous unmarried sex is supported by the Apostolic witness of the New Testament will have to invent scripture to prove their point.
Homosexual and Christian are only mutally exclusive terms as to what a Christian should do sexually. Many Christans (if not all) are drawn to things they should not enagege in. Jesus said a thing or two about thoughts as well. No Christian is encouraged to sin even in thier minds without the need to repent of it.
Are you saying that Christians should not evangelize homosexuals (GLBT's)?
In the New Testament witness, the behaviors inherent of homosexuality are mutally exclusive to the behaviors taught to Christians as to what Christians should and shouldn't do.
Nonsense.
Firstly, homosexuality and homosexual ACTS are NOT the same thing. I am a homosexual, as I sit and write this. I was homosexual before my first kiss, and I will be homosexual if I never touch another human being for the rest of my life. Its what I AM. AND I'm a Christian. There is no conflict between the two.
Second, what I THINK you mean, is that homosexual ACTS stop someone from being a Christian... Well, I'd dearly love to see ANY Christian congregation that did not have its fair share of theives, adulterers, cynics, disobedient children and any of a range of other Biblically condemned sinners, yet none of them are claimed to be somehow antithetical to Christianity,
Lastly, I do not believe that what you believe the Bible condemns is in the same as what I mean by homosexuality. Your belief is based on a large amount of mistranslation and villification by biased transmitters.
Are you saying that Christians should not evangelize homosexuals (GLBT's)?
Its a nonsense question. Its like asking if Christians should evangelise women, or should Christians evangelise police officers, or should Christians evangelise Italians?
It starts from the false premise that somehow the subject group could not possibly already be part of the object group. There are already Christian women, police officers, Italians, AND homosexuals
There are many anti-Christs. They come with a different Gospel everytime. It is exposed sooner or later.
In the New Testament witness, the behaviors inherent of homosexuality are mutally exclusive to the behaviors taught to Christians as to what Christians should and shouldn't do.
The animosity and outright screaming hatred from Gays and Lesbians towards Christians for "preaching" that gay sex is a sin, may be where your point loses its support.
Did Christians try to evangelize Nero? Did they try to evangelize people that engaged in same-gender sex acts and teach that these behaviors needed to be given up once they became Christians? No doubt. 2000-years later and here we are.
As we have seen from another thread there is not one place where same-gender sexual unions are promoted or encouraged IN the New Testament witness. The Apostles taught that marriage was a man and a woman. Never once do we see a same-gender example. Anyone trying to claim that pre-marital sex, promiscuity or monogamous unmarried sex is supported by the Apostolic witness of the New Testament will have to invent scripture to prove their point.
Homosexual and Christian are only mutally exclusive terms as to what a Christian should do sexually. Many Christans (if not all) are drawn to things they should not enagege in. Jesus said a thing or two about thoughts as well. No Christian is encouraged to sin even in thier minds without the need to repent of it.
Are you saying that Christians should not evangelize homosexuals (GLBT's)?
Are you suggesting that the Christian Churches that disagree with you are the anti-Christ? It appears to me you are, at the very least, insinuating it. I've always found it a bit disingenuous and discriminatory when anyone categorically condemns a few million people.
__________________ The saddest aspect of life right now is that science gathers knowledge faster than society gathers wisdom. ~Isaac Asimov
This is soooo unfair. Why single out these one letter abbreviation groups for the good treatment? What do I have to do to not be evangelised to? I've wilfully broken every commandment except 1, I have done my level best to blaspheme against the holy spirit, and I take time out of every day to mock god. I am far more immoral than any B, T Q or C.
pick me for the non-evangelicing! I wanna see the fundies scuttle away from my posts like cockroaches from a light.
__________________ I hear stories from the chamber / How Christ was born into a manger
And like some ragged stranger / Died upon the cross
And might I say it seems so fitting in its way
He was a carpenter by trade / Or at least that's what I'm told
--Mercy Seat, Nick Cave and the Bad Seeds
You haven't answered if you would like me to come bother you at your church.
Look at my thread that mentions Mel White/Soulforce?
Please keep any part of the gay agenda away from my Church. But it doesn't look like that even that polite request will be honoered by GLBT's. ENDA is on the way. And look at Gene Robinson. It's east to see how Sodom got the way it did.
So, basically, its ok for you to come bother us at what we do, but you can't handle it being turned around? If you can't handle being around the "gay agenda" why should I have to be around the "christian agenda?"
__________________ "This country is turning into a dream I had, and I woke up crying." John Stewart
This is soooo unfair. Why single out these one letter abbreviation groups for the good treatment? What do I have to do to not be evangelised to? I've wilfully broken every commandment except 1, I have done my level best to blaspheme against the holy spirit, and I take time out of every day to mock god. I am far more immoral than any B, T Q or C.
Pick me for the non-evangelicing! I wanna see the fundies scuttle away from my posts like cockroaches from a light.
Yet, you're at a place called "Christian Forums." Got your glasses on?
Sorry pal, some of us Christians aren't taking the accusations made about us from you guys anymore. Our children are too important to us to be silenced any more.
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