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3rd July 2008, 02:34 PM
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Reps: 30,957,804,797 (power: 0) | | Originally Posted by LittleNipper They are glad because they never were Christian, they were attempting to work their way to heaven. Doing works to be a good boy soon becomes a real drudge. To stop doing works and do whatever is a termporary relief but offers not security. I find that as a real Christian I am free to do things for CHRIST ---- to show my love and not because I must.
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C'mon man, that is not necessarily why people were in Christian Churches. Like John says, they left because they never were one of us.
Remember Elijah, when he thought he was the only believer left on earth, God said that there were thousands of people throughout the land that hadn't bowed their knee to pagan practices and beliefs.
Be careful.
I'm sure there are peope caught up in the GLBT community (and many other non and anti-Christian enclaves) that haven't bought into them.
I'm out.
But I DON'T mean "I'm out." | 
3rd July 2008, 03:49 PM
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Reps: 122,811,221,000 (power: 122,811,232) | | Originally Posted by LittleNipper They are glad because they never were Christian, they were attempting to work their way to heaven. Doing works to be a good boy soon becomes a real drudge. To stop doing works and do whatever is a termporary relief but offers not security. I find that as a real Christian I am free to do things for CHRIST ---- to show my love and not because I must.
Yes, it doesn't seem very nice to me, I have to say, to only care about the salvation of people you like.
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4th July 2008, 12:44 AM
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Reps: 79,314,758,803,053,392 (power: 79,314,758,803,064) | | Originally Posted by Polycarp_fan Hmm, it looks you are going try. Once again.
Where would that be?
Worlds away from my beliefs, right where you said Christianity is. That would be in gay theological circles. Anything goes there (except for accurate Biblical exegesis of course). You know that now.
Not sure how hearing you say something means I "know" it. Especially when it goes against everything I *actually* know. I've heard all sorts of people say all sorts of things.
I was a member of an informal gay "club" in a Christian college and certainly *nothing* like that was considered appropriate in my circle. Those who were dating at all were monogamous. Far more than that. I know the Biblical record on the poor and needy. It appears you haven't forgotten things.
It is a sin like homosexuality is.
Christians are ralying to support small businesses all the time. The Alliance Defense Fund is doing just that for a small business owning Christian coupled attacked by Lesbians.
If you preach "another Gospel" it is indeed good that you are out. That is in keeping with the Christian witness in the New Testament writings.
I was an appropriate decision for an anti-Christian to make. If you at anytime desire to repent, well, you know the deal. That door is never closed but for one sin.
So, basically, when I describe my "gay" morality, you seem to agree with it but don't seem willing to acknowledge it. Caring for those in need, treating one's own privilege with humility and discretion, promoting the wellbeing of the common person and not treating sex as casual play.
And yet...you still claim that I preach a "different" gospel, that it's good I left because I am "anti-Christian" and that Christian morality and mine are worlds apart from one another.
Have you ever the phrase "He who cannot agree with his enemy is controlled by him"?
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4th July 2008, 01:27 AM
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"A little girl in a lesbian relationship" are we discussing illegal paedophilia, or chronic mysogenic condecension? | 
4th July 2008, 03:07 AM
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Reps: 214,367,735,875,574,368 (power: 214,367,735,875,582) | | The gay community and the Christian community are worlds apart on proper moral behavior, so why should Christians bother with homosexuality and those that engage in it? I wasn't going to respond to this thread, that's why I'm late in replying because threads condemning gays has gotten old. But to ask should the Christian community evangelize, isn't that part of being Christian? Why should people of the LGBT community be left out if you feel that they're sinning? This is just another typical anti-gay thread, "saying that homosexuals are promiscuous, they're destroying our families, they're pushing their lifestyles on us.
Judging from many of the posts you have here, it seems you're just talking, but you're not really saying anything. Yeah I had to bring this up again. 
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4th July 2008, 04:09 AM
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4th July 2008, 04:15 AM
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4th July 2008, 04:22 AM
| | | Originally Posted by EnemyPartyII Its good, but the one missing is about how "every civilisation that embraces homosexuality has fallen, look at Rome and Greece!"
And there also needs to be a "The Gay Agenda!!!!" square lol | 
4th July 2008, 04:58 AM
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Reps: 9,252,043,238,039 (power: 9,252,043,243) | | Originally Posted by Polycarp_fan The gay community and the Christian community are worlds apart on proper moral behavior, so why should Christians bother with homosexuality and those that engage in it?
Are gays "given up?" Should Christians evangelize "Gays."
Paul about a segment of Roman life that bears a striking similarity to the sexual immorality of today:
Therefore God gave them over in the sinful desires of their hearts to sexual impurity for the degrading of their bodies with one another.
They exchanged the truth of God for a lie, and worshiped and served created things rather than the Creator—who is forever praised. Amen.
Because of this, God gave them over to shameful lusts. Even their women exchanged natural relations for unnatural ones. In the same way the men also abandoned natural relations with women and were inflamed with lust for one another.
Men committed indecent acts with other men, and received in themselves the due penalty for their perversion.
Furthermore, since they did not think it worthwhile to retain the knowledge of God, he gave them over to a depraved mind, to do what ought not to be done. Your question was answered within your own post. YOU don't give anyone over, only God. Christians are commanded by Jesus himself, in Mark 16:15 as follows:
15And he said unto them, Go ye into all the world, and preach the gospel to every creature. Are you purporting to know the mind of God and telling us that we should listen to you rather than Jesus regarding who should be told the Good News? | 
4th July 2008, 06:47 AM
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