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Old 29th June 2008, 11:39 AM
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Should Noobs die for the crimes of others?

The other day I was riding through Elwynn Forest, randomly blessing the younger players, when someone yelled "BLOOD ELF PALADIN IN NORTHSHIRE!" Conveniently that was nearby so I rode in. Sure enough there he was. A level 70 jackass, pulling all the mobs that noobs need for quest progression, and one-hitting any noob foolish enough to actually challenge him. I went ahead and resurrected a couple of them knowing that would flag me for combat, hoping I could provoke him to attack me. He decided just to split. A wise choice as I would have destroyed him. I would have given chase but you can't catch a Paladin that's determined to run from you. My immediate impulse was to go to his starting area and lay waste to every living thing that moved. However I thought better of it. There's no justifiable reason to make innocent noobs suffer for the crimes of others. Slaughering noobs will only encourage the perception that the Alliance are blood-thirsty vengeful Imperialists, bent on World (of Warcraft) conquest. Those noobs I pwn will eventually grow up and will one day strike at the heart of the Alliance themselves. Also I had no real exit strategy.
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Slaughtering noobs is good fun Especially alliance noobs. Three cheers to that paladin for putting the fear of the horde into a pack of alliance nooblets

There is always some level 70 from either faction going to lower level areas ganking quest givers and any noob foolish enough to flag. At first I thought it was super annoying and those doing it must have had no life until I went and tried it out myself ... and found it to be lots of fun! At the very least you give those noobs a fun memory and a motivation to level up quickly lol.

Oh, and what's even more fun is to be playing the noob character and then quickly switch to your own level 70 that happens to be parked in the noob town just for this possibility. I've taken out an entire group of opposing level 70s when they had no idea where that horde pally or 'lock suddenly came from that has all the town npc's backing him up

Summary: Slaughtering noobs is good, necessary and tons 'o fun to boot! (also very ethical and quite moral)
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Originally Posted by Trevorocity View Post
The other day I was riding through Elwynn Forest, randomly blessing the younger players, when someone yelled "BLOOD ELF PALADIN IN NORTHSHIRE!" Conveniently that was nearby so I rode in. Sure enough there he was. A level 70 jackass, pulling all the mobs that noobs need for quest progression, and one-hitting any noob foolish enough to actually challenge him. I went ahead and resurrected a couple of them knowing that would flag me for combat, hoping I could provoke him to attack me. He decided just to split. A wise choice as I would have destroyed him. I would have given chase but you can't catch a Paladin that's determined to run from you. My immediate impulse was to go to his starting area and lay waste to every living thing that moved. However I thought better of it. There's no justifiable reason to make innocent noobs suffer for the crimes of others. Slaughering noobs will only encourage the perception that the Alliance are blood-thirsty vengeful Imperialists, bent on World (of Warcraft) conquest. Those noobs I pwn will eventually grow up and will one day strike at the heart of the Alliance themselves. Also I had no real exit strategy.
The Horde is almost entirely illegitimate. It's a government of lies, and it's been responsible for the near eradication of humanity, the destruction of the World Tree, the murder of the demigod Cenarius, the razing of Khaz Modan, and a host of other atrocities. And it's not like the Blood Elves are innocent victims, either. Had they not turned away from the Alliance at the end of the Great War, they may have spared their precious Quel'Thalas, and perhaps even prevented the advance of the Burning Legion. The entirety of the Horde deserves death, and as a defender of the Holy Light, it is your duty to give it to them.
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Originally Posted by RecoveringPhilosopher View Post
The Horde is almost entirely illegitimate. It's a government of lies, and it's been responsible for the near eradication of humanity, the destruction of the World Tree, the murder of the demigod Cenarius, the razing of Khaz Modan, and a host of other atrocities. And it's not like the Blood Elves are innocent victims, either. Had they not turned away from the Alliance at the end of the Great War, they may have spared their precious Quel'Thalas, and perhaps even prevented the advance of the Burning Legion. The entirety of the Horde deserves death, and as a defender of the Holy Light, it is your duty to give it to them.
I'm well aware of the crimes of the Orcs but the Alliance governments are also tainted by undercurrents of corruption and sedition. And you should bear in mind that devotees of The Light are not immune to wickedness. Need I remind you that Prince Arthas was also a follower of The Light and a Knight of the Silver Hand before he turned to evil.
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And he answering said, Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy strength, and with all thy mind; and thy neighbour as thyself.

Matthew 7:12 (Do unto others)
Therefore all things whatsoever ye would that men should do to you, do ye even so to them: for this is the law and the prophets.

Matthew 5:43-48 (Pray for those that persecute you)
Ye have heard that it hath been said, Thou shalt love thy neighbour, and hate thine enemy.
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But I say unto you which hear, Love your enemies, do good to them which hate you, Bless them that curse you, and pray for them which despitefully use you. And unto him that smiteth thee on the one cheek offer also the other; and him that taketh away thy cloak forbid not to take thy coat also.


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As much as I find the alliance obnoxious I find ganking to just be dumb and I don't see the point when there is no challenge and not even any benefit to the person. I only gank or kill people when they have been doing the same to somebody that I know.
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I don't see the point when there is no challenge and not even any benefit to the person. I only gank or kill people when they have been doing the same to somebody that I know.

That's close to how I am or was. Something about a rogue though. If I see one I feel it's my moral obligation to send him or her on a ghost walk.

I haven't played since 2.4 came out, I didn't like the dumbing down they did on 2.3 but I continued to play. But when 2.4 come out I lost interest. Suddenly the epics I had worked hard for where easy to obtain.
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The other day I was riding through Elwynn Forest, randomly blessing the younger players, when someone yelled "BLOOD ELF PALADIN IN NORTHSHIRE!" Conveniently that was nearby so I rode in. Sure enough there he was. A level 70 jackass, pulling all the mobs that noobs need for quest progression, and one-hitting any noob foolish enough to actually challenge him. I went ahead and resurrected a couple of them knowing that would flag me for combat, hoping I could provoke him to attack me. He decided just to split. A wise choice as I would have destroyed him. I would have given chase but you can't catch a Paladin that's determined to run from you. My immediate impulse was to go to his starting area and lay waste to every living thing that moved. However I thought better of it. There's no justifiable reason to make innocent noobs suffer for the crimes of others. Slaughering noobs will only encourage the perception that the Alliance are blood-thirsty vengeful Imperialists, bent on World (of Warcraft) conquest. Those noobs I pwn will eventually grow up and will one day strike at the heart of the Alliance themselves. Also I had no real exit strategy.
Hey, let's go beat up some kindergarteners.


I'm well aware of the crimes of the Orcs but the Alliance governments are also tainted by undercurrents of corruption and sedition. And you should bear in mind that devotees of The Light are not immune to wickedness. Need I remind you that Prince Arthas was also a follower of The Light and a Knight of the Silver Hand before he turned to evil.
Arthas was a jerkface.

I still have to play through Frozen Throne.
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Originally Posted by morningstar2651 View Post
Hey, let's go beat up some kindergarteners.
Yeah that'll show em!
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Originally Posted by Trevorocity View Post
Yeah that'll show em!
Bah, you all have no kid left in your heart

The best part of taking out noob zones is when the posse comes round to run you out of town. When those frosty noobs start cheering their newfound heroes, it's all thanks to your efforts :d

Seriously though, I used to think it seemed pretty lame as well and then I tried it out. It's actually loads of fun and eventually some other level 70 or more show up and it's even more fun then. There's still lots of brand new noobs (rather than just alt-noobs) and that's their first chance to see high level action and to get a feel for a real world around them rather than just a levelling treadmill.

Raids on noob zones however are still lame. Go solo or 2 or 3 for most fun and to keep it from being totally overwhelming or unplayable for the low levels.
 


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