jim kaseman bringing the church in line in regrds to emma

Okay, shaking under the power of the Holy spirit is not a new thing.

Excerpt from my site. During a lecture in 1741, for example, a Scottish minister asked, "Where is the fruit of my poor labours among this people?" At this some of his parishioners cried out, in the most public manner, of their lost and undone condition, saying, they now saw hell open for them, and heard the shrieks of the damned and expressed their agony not only in words, but by clapping their hands, beating their breasts, terrible shakings, frequent faintings and convulsions; the minister often calling out to them, not to stifle or smother the convictions, but encouraged them." At a communion service during the next year in Scotland attended by some 30,000, "some of both sexes, and all ages, from the stoutest man to the tenderest child," a participant, wrote about how the people present "shake and tremble, and a few fall down as dead."
in 1731 William M'Culloch, then aged forty took over the parish . He had grown up in Covenanter country, surrounded by martyrs' graves, and longed for God to move again upon the land. His labours almost ended in despair. The congregation was in such poor spiritual health that he did not feel it right to celebrate Communion for three years. A friend urged him to devote himself to intercessory prayer for a deeper work of God's Holy Spirit. News of the 'Great Awakening' in America gave impetus to such prayer and to a closer study of the Bible. Then, a devastating hurricane followed by months of famine in 1740 brought the people to brokenness before God.
The next year George White-field arrived in Edinburgh, preaching the gospel with such power that many cried aloud. Fourteen from Cambuslang found their hearts "melted down and overboiling with tears". Back home the thought of revival consumed them day and night.

In February, 1742, M'Culloch sent the people home, charging them to "fall on their knees before God, and with all possible earnestness, as for life itself, to beg of Him His Holy Spirit to renew and change our hearts and natures, and to take no comfort in any thing till we get it".
They were not kept waiting long. Within days a young woman cned out in the church: "Christ says to me He will never leave me or forsake me!" The effect was electric, with many weeping and others crying aloud for joy, and M'Culloch needing three hours to counsel the enquirers.
Now the Holy Spirit was really at work. Complete households fell under conviction of sin. People would burst into tears in the street. One young woman, noted for her timidity, preached under the anointing of the Holy Spirit to a large crowd with compelling power. A visiting minister wrote of how some that were previously notorious sinners had now the meekness of the Lamb. On Tuesday, July 6, 1742, White-field came to Cambuslang at midday and preached at two, six and nine o'clock. For about an hour and a half there were scenes of uncontrollable distress, like a field of battle. People were being carried into the manse like wounded soldiers. "Such a commotion was surely never heard of especially at eleven at night," he wrote to a friend. "It far out-did all I ever saw in America."
All night in the fields could be heard the voices of prayer and praise.
News spread throughout the country and by the time of Whitefield's next sermon in July the crowd numbered upwards of 20,000. Whitefield wrote to John Cennick "Such a universal stir I never saw before. The motion fled as swiftly as lightning from one end of the auditory to the other. You might have seen the thousands bathed in tears; some at the same time wringing their hands, others almost swooning and others crying out and mourning over a pierced Saviour."

News spread throughout the country and by the time of Whitefield's next sermon in July the crowd numbered upwards of 20,000. Whitefield wrote to John Cennick "Such a universal stir I never saw before. The motion fled as swiftly as lightning from one end of the auditory to the other. You might have seen the thousands bathed in tears; some at the same time wringing their hands, others almost swooning and others crying out and mourning over a pierced Saviour."
During these and other meetings men and women trembled and wept and some fell down as dead. Joy as much a part of this work as was sorrow over sin. Many believers found themselves so moved by a sense of the Saviour's love as to be lifted almost into a state of rapture. The phrase 'joy unspeakable and full of glory' occurs frequently in the Cambuslang records and undoubtedly depicts the experience of many, among both the new converts and the established Christians.

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Okay, I will answer this one too, although you didn't ask me. It is simply the presence of God (the glory) , the power of God, the Holy Spirit coming upon me that causes those manifestations and this isn't new with the Florida Revival. I haven't been to Lakeland yet. We are running our own outpouring meetings, my church has been in Revival for 2 months.
I shake at times because I am in the presence of Almighty God and I have one desire in my heart to draw closer to Jesus.
I am in love with Jesus, my Lord and Savior, who died for me, who shed his blood for me, yet he is the groom who calls us his bride to come closer.
I have been healed, drawn closer to the Lord, seen romance come back into my marriage, the Lord working on my son, and I have more boldness, I have more energy too to pursue Kingdom business and reach the lost for Christ. When we shake under the power of God , He is doing a work deep within our heazrts changing us that we might become more like Him.

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It seems spiritman is curious. I can't say that I blame him. I have never had anything like that happen to me and I have always had the same questions. I even convinced myself at one point everyone was faking it. I have sense learned that just because things are not happening to me does not mean they are not real.

Actual hearing people who have experience it helps. It also helps to know it's something you can stop. If it was uncontrollable I would be very skeptical that it was from God.

I myself do have one question. Is it something you bring on? Something that must be started yourself? I guess... kinda like tongues? We have to actually start talking before the Holy Spirit takes over and goes off into it's own language.

If it's something that comes on you without your willing it and you can stop it if needs be...well that has to be God.

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I will jump in on this one too. I have never jerked, but in a way, it is against my will. But, the manifested presence of the Lord does affect me physically. In prayer, I will find myself rocking softly back and forth, without my own doing it. I will also find that I shake some, or feel like if I don't get up and run that I will just bust.

All these things are just wonderful blessings to me. And it all began after reading the Benny Hinn book: Welcome Holy Spirit. I held my hands out and ask the Holy Spirit to touch my hands, first the left, then the right, and He did. That was the beginning of a relationship with Him that I had never known before.

stace\o/

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"Holy Spirit, I have come all the way from Africa to talk to Stephen about You. Stephen Merritt talks about the city and sights to see. I want so much to learn more about you, to hear more about You. Take out of his heart the things of the earth, and so fill him with Yourself, that he can not speak, or write, or talk of anything but You."
Samual Morris

Amen!

I would add that to the degree that God's glory is manifest is also the degree that we can control it, so to speak.

1 Cor 14:32 "The spirits of prophets are subject to the control of prophets."

This is describing how our spirits are subject to us, and that we control it. God's spirit is another matter. I have experienced God's power where I could not physically move for maybe half an hour, it felt like fire went through my body. This is not so common as shaking, or vibrating which is much more common manifestation. I believe it was something like the baptism of fire that Jesus talked about.

Matt 3:11 I baptize you with water for repentance. But after me will come one who is more powerful than I, whose sandals I am not fit to carry. He will baptize you with the Holy Spirit and with fire.

2 Chronicles 5:13It came even to pass, as the trumpeters and singers were as one, to make one sound to be heard in praising and thanking the LORD; and when they lifted up their voice with the trumpets and cymbals and instruments of musick, and praised the LORD, saying, For he is good; for his mercy endureth for ever: that then the house was filled with a cloud, even the house of the LORD;
14So that the priests could not stand to minister by reason of the cloud: for the glory of the LORD had filled the house of God.



There are more. I was amazed! The glory of God would come and the priests would not be able to stand any more.

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Thanks to all that contibuted and responded. Are there any that have experienced the rapid head swinging action? Also falling down and shaking violently? I would be interested in hearing about those experiences. What are they like?

Thanks

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Gal 2:20 I was crucified with Christ: nevertheless I live; yet not I, but Christ liveth in me: and the life which I now live in the flesh I live by the faith of the Son of God, who loved me, and gave himself for me.

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also heard but not witnessed those that go into animal like trances and act out a dog, cat, lion, chicken, etc. o you believe the Holy Spirit would do this? I can't imagine what purpose it serves.

Not every person that attends a revival is free of Satanic influence even if they consider themselves to be a believing Christian. Have you never heard a person let out a horrible scream during a deliverance from a demon. Do you think a demon has to wait outside the church during a revival service in which deliverance is occuring among certain people.


As far as Jim Kasemen he is a Living Word stalward(Broken Arrow, OK) with many years in the ministry. It's only natural men of his background(organized Christianity) would scrutinize a fresh outpouring that isn't what organized Christianity is use to seeing/expecting or readily comfortable accepting without first giving their stamp of approval.

A senior lifelong member and elder in a small non-denominational Pentecostal church where Bill Johnson spoke criticized Bill for using the expression "leaked" when referring to an overflowing of the Holy Spirit. Some of the leading AG administrators in Springfield felt it was their duty to criticize some of the activities during the Pensacola Revival at the Brownsville AG Church.

IMO, Todd Bentley, Bill Johnson, John Kilpatrick and other revival Pastors often get nearly as much criticism/flack/persecution from their affliated Mother church/denomination than from the unbelieving world/media.