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Well, at first blush, all the carbon in any diamond is the same carbon found in biology.
I wondered if you meant something else; but with you I never know -- sorry.
OK, I see what do you mean.
No. The carbon are different in its isotope composition. Biological carbon are much more enriched in C12, but mantle carbon (for diamond) has more C13. This is what the linked article talked about. They found carbon in diamond with biological signature (high C12). The diamond was in turn, enclosed in a mineral only found in continental crust. But there was not supposed to have any continental (granitic) material on earth at the very beginning.
So, these data made the origin of earth and plant very complicate. In this thread, my concern is only on the possibility that plant material existed in earth's mantle condition.
Just curious,
can you share which plants you're concerned with?
You know, the ones you believe would die off beyond recovery after a couple of days without sunlight?
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Just curious,
can you share which plants you're concerned with?
You know, the ones you believe would die off beyond recovery after a couple of days without sunlight?
The Bible says all kinds of plants. Yes, if conditions were bad (could be most of the places in the universe), they died. But in the big universe, if somewhere the conditions were good, then they survive and grow. Earth is one of such place. We might also find all kinds of seaweeds in the ocean of Europa.
Of course, this is only a near-imaginary model which is based on the Bible and the current data about organic material in the universe.
The Bible says all kinds of plants. Yes, if conditions were bad (could be most of the places in the universe), they died. But in the big universe, if somewhere the conditions were good, then they survive and grow. Earth is one of such place. We might also find all kinds of seaweeds in the ocean of Europa.
Of course, this is only a near-imaginary model which is based on the Bible and the current data about organic material in the universe.
So then, you believe any and all plants irrecoverably die within 2 days without sunlight?
That's not been my experience.
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God created plants before the sun to demonstrate that the sun is not the source of life and is not to be worshiped ... as He knew later people would begin to worship the sun.
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God created plants before the sun to demonstrate that the sun is not the source of life and is not to be worshiped ... as He knew later people would begin to worship the sun.
That makes sense---as long as one does not literalize it. Genesis 1 was written as a polemic against pagan gods.
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i dont know that it has to be seen as not literal in order to be against pagan gods -- the literal truth is obviously against paganism.
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