Gay theology (i.e. Mel White, Soulforce) why even try?

Nice vitriol.
However, since it was MY post you addressed, how about answering the question? Without resorting to hubris, that is.

Not taking the Bible literally, as a serious interaction of God to His people, is absurd. You may as well worship a Dunkin donut. That makes everyone feel good.

The "Bible" to the Christians that wrote what we call the New Testament had ONLY the Torah, or rather the Tankah, as their Bible. The New Testament works were written to combat false teachers and false teachings about what it was to be a follower of Jesus. These men made it clear that same-gender sex acts "for Christians" are inappropriate. It is not mean or hateful to give up same-gender sexual behavior for the fellowship of believers known as Christians.

C'mon now, why take on the words "Christians as Christ-like," when many of those people that don't take the Bible literally don't even believe Jesus even existed. It's ether real or its not. Believing in fairy tales is not an adult thing to do. Paul talks about that.

Or why not Billy Ray Cyrus? He's a nice guy too. Sure blessed his daughter Miley bigtime. Seriously, Jesus is either just a guy or God. There is no middle ground with Him.

Christians can learn a lot from him. Don't trust adherants to your own religion. They can sometimes shoot you. Jesus gave us advice about things like this. But they can also learn a lesson from Ghandi to living like Christians is important too. It's interesting, "the world" doesn't seem to care about failures of other religions. Only Christians. I'm not surprised as to why. I became a Christian for serious reasons.

Which one? And its tough following a guy that gets reborn in a new body all the time.

Is the Dali Lhama a buddha?

Have you ever wondered WHY the writers of the Bible would leave in all of the miscreant and degenerate behaviors of the heroes of the Bible "if" it is to be a judgmental religion condemning everyone? When studying the Bible for yourself, you see a whole lot better picture than what you were told about it. It's the story of real people doing really good (and bad) things. Sounds very convincing to me as a book written under the authority of something to respect in a big way. Otherwise, all of the stars in the book would be spotless heroes. Somebody wrote down things that would they and their fellow believers very bad a lot of the times. The Bible doesn't come across as a religion manual at all. It comes across as real people experiencing real life with the supernatural not being all that surprising.

Because GLBT's will not leave US alone. They are sneaky and cunning in the way they spread their "orientation" methods. They look as bad as they are accussed of being. Not to mention the gay pride parade debauchery festivals held (it seems) every other day.

Arrogance? Have you taken the time to SEE how GLBT's talk about their positions? It is the height of superiority 100% of the time. They have an elitist answer for everything (it's the guidebook and playbook style). Reminds me of Satan with Jesus in the Gospel.

Why does anyone need to identify as "gay" or "lesbian" or the king of them all "bi-sexual?"

If people that enjoy homosexuality were to go away when they achieve every one of their agenda's goals, I would march in a pride parade. But, history has taught us that this kind of sin (sexual perversion or porneia as the writers penned it) never just sits idle. And we are seeing that proven by the immorality of our youth "culture." Never, do we hear of a decent morality message from the GLBT community. It's always the protection of promiscuity and licentiousness. And let's not go to the marriage issue. Marriage is a man and a womannnnnnn BUUUUUUUUTTTTTTTTTT nnnnnnnot to a perverse and rebellious generation. Anything truly goes "now." Is that GLBT's fault exclusively? Almost. Except of course the message of the Gospel, that doesn't go many places anymore outside of the Church. That is now hate speech outside of it. Or, at least that is what I'm seeing and hearing FROM the GLBT community.


Here we go again. All we need is a new Nero at the helm.

Luke 18
9To some who were confident of their own righteousness and looked down on everybody else, Jesus told this parable: 10"Two men went up to the temple to pray, one a Pharisee and the other a tax collector. 11The Pharisee stood up and prayed about[a] himself: 'God, I thank you that I am not like other men—robbers, evildoers, adulterers—or even like this tax collector. 12I fast twice a week and give a tenth of all I get.'
13"But the tax collector stood at a distance. He would not even look up to heaven, but beat his breast and said, 'God, have mercy on me, a sinner.'

14"I tell you that this man, rather than the other, went home justified before God. For everyone who exalts himself will be humbled, and he who humbles himself will be exalted."

What's the difference between now and "now"?

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SoulForce is as much a political call for equality as it is for "Gay Theology."

What is a far worse stretch is, "I'm a Christian, and I follow Jesus, who has commanded me to love my neighbor as myself, but gay people aren't my neighbor! I don't think they should have the say rights as I do! I think they should be unlawfully and unfairly fired simply for being gay. I am protected by hate crimes under Religion, but gay people shouldn't be! I can marry someone of the opposite sex, which is good in times of life or death decisions, but I don't want the same for gay people! I hate them, because that is the most loving thing I can do."

Such people mock God. If he truly exists, they will have to answer for it. "I suffered injustice, and you not only encouraged it, but supported it and fought for it. You did not love me as yourself."

And what is it that happens to the goats, then?

God created man and woman, men have a penis women have a vagina. The penis goes into the vagina and over time babies are made. A perfect cycle of reprodution with the added pleasure of what it brings. Anything outside of this model is abnormal. Sexuality is the single most spiritual thing a person can do, if it doesn't follow the model set up by God and listed above, it is a deep sin against God and your very soul. Homosexuality isn't the only sexual sin, just lusting after another woman is that same as commiting adultery. Men, when was the last time you lusted?

Then Satan glued the clitoris onto women's naughty bits, and suddenly it all went wrong, right?

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I can't stand it. I think we could be friends. Or at least nice to each other neighbors. You make me laugh for sure. In a good way. No "hubris" implied.

The quotation mark highlights the relevance of that which is in quotes. At least that is how I use them.

Sodom and Gomorrah, Babylon, Rome, all the freak shows are back in vogue. And the children are suffering. God will soon hear their cries.

The Pharisees loved to parade themselves up and down the city streets. All dressed up in their finest display. They thought themselves of a higher order than others. Read some gay propaganda, they are portrayed as the poets, artists and truly refined class. Interestingly the bathroom and erotic exotic ball room behaviors are left out.

Christians humble themselves before the Lord in places you cannot see. Humbling yourself is not to be done before people. The way that GLBT's are portrayed here and elsewhere, you would think they were all John the Baptist types. Hardly. They are not harbingers of a better world.

I would have used the scripture you quoted, but I didn't think it was appropriate on these boards. It's about confessing sins and being grieved by them.

Gays are not born sinners remember the sales pitch?