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Old 25th June 2008, 04:06 PM
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Originally Posted by FlamingFemme View Post
LIke Cantata said, everyone has broken commandments - And you even just said: "only G-D is good". So, once again, why do you insist on portraying homosexuals as being more evil than any other group of people?

Evil originates among those who promote sin as good.
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but being a homosexual doesnt mean that you are damned forever like some people believe. Plus in refference to Satan, couldnt it be possible that God created him for the purpose of falling. God has a plan for everything, everything is already written out. Without evil there can be no good so what if God created Satan to be evil, to fall, and to give us a moral lowground to try and escape from.


BTW this statement in no way means that i worship the devil, im just saying that he might have been created for a specific purpose.
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Originally Posted by LittleNipper View Post
Evil originates among those who promote sin as good.
IMHO, Evil originates among those who are so arrogant to believe that they can speak for G-d.
I'm glad that you are secure in your beliefs. But when you try to say that my G-d (because She's mine, too, y'know) rejects me and my capacity to Love, you're spouting blasphemy.
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I've never understood why homosexuals would want to be part of a religion which gets it so laughably wrong on sexual ethics to be honest.

The pro-gay interpretations do seem a little bit of stretch to me.
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Originally Posted by uberd00b View Post
I've never understood why homosexuals would want to be part of a religion which gets it so laughably wrong on sexual ethics to be honest.

The pro-gay interpretations do seem a little bit of stretch to me.
I'm inclined to agree with you.

It's nearly as unconvincing as feminist interpretations of Genesis. I wish they'd just give it up as a bad job, sometimes. I suppose it's done as an attempt to talk to other Christians on their own terms.
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Originally Posted by jadebullet View Post
but being a homosexual doesnt mean that you are damned forever like some people believe. Plus in refference to Satan, couldnt it be possible that God created him for the purpose of falling. God has a plan for everything, everything is already written out. Without evil there can be no good so what if God created Satan to be evil, to fall, and to give us a moral lowground to try and escape from.


BTW this statement in no way means that i worship the devil, im just saying that he might have been created for a specific purpose.
God is good, so clearly GOOD has existed without evil. GOD created Lucifer to be a being who would want to worship GOD without GOD creating a robot. Clearly GOD realized that Lucifer would not; however, GOD ALLOWED satan to happen so that we would happen and love GOD for HIS love towards us, that though we were yet sinners CHRIST died for us. HIS eternal intent seems to be to bring HIS chosen back to the garden --- NEW Heaven and NEW Earth ---- See the chapter 21 of Revelations.
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Originally Posted by LittleNipper View Post
God is good, so clearly GOOD has existed without evil. GOD created Lucifer to be a being who would want to worship GOD without GOD creating a robot. Clearly GOD realized that Lucifer would not; however, GOD ALLOWED satan to happen so that we would happen and love GOD for HIS love towards us, that though we were yet sinners CHRIST died for us. HIS eternal intent seems to be to bring HIS chosen back to the garden --- NEW Heaven and NEW Earth ---- See the chapter 21 of Revelations.
Sounds like a convoluted and cruel way of running a universe to me.
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Originally Posted by uberd00b View Post
I've never understood why homosexuals would want to be part of a religion which gets it so laughably wrong on sexual ethics to be honest.

The pro-gay interpretations do seem a little bit of stretch to me.
Maybe they are a bit of a stretch. But there are Christians (both gay and straight) who do not take the Bible literally. Instead, they use the Bible as a guide, and use the literal meaning of the word Christian - Meaning they try to live their lives as Christ-like as possible. Though I'm not Christian, this would be the most likely type of Christianity I could accept, as I think most people on this planet could make it a better place by living more like Jesus the Christ. Or Mahatma Ghandi. Or the Buddha. Also, I think the Bible has many good messages that would behoove most people to follow to make this world a better place. However, these Christians (at least the ones I know) do not take it upon themselves to insist that EVERYONE believe exactly as they do. And, if the anti-gay Christians really believe that G-d will do the judging, why can't they just leave GLBT people alone to live their lives?
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Originally Posted by cantata View Post
Sounds like a convoluted and cruel way of running a universe to me.

Only to those who enjoy living with cruelity and are seeking simplicity but perhaps not the truth.

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Originally Posted by FlamingFemme View Post
Pedophilia, bestiality, necrophilia, and now Satan himself? Why do you feel the need to compare homosexual people with horrible crimes, and, now, the Devil? Why, in your opinion, are homosexuals so EVIL?
Adversary. Ha Satan, the Adversary.

Hate the sin, but love the sinner. Only the GLBT community sees that as a hate crime. All of us other sinners see this as grace and love.

Please note that it is gay theology that brought us the Roman child-slave-owning pederast as a great example for all to celebrate. It is gay theology that brings us a sexual relationship between a mother in law and a duaghter in law. Incredible as that may sound, it is their position.

Ever heard of the story of Baalam and his donkey? They had quite the tempestuous relationship. Dare I go liberal/gay theology on that couple?

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