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27th June 2008, 10:35 PM
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I am not mad at all 
Philothei
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SAVE GREECE!
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27th June 2008, 10:41 PM
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Reps: 9,232,419,481,440,484 (power: 9,232,419,481,452) | | Originally Posted by Philothei  LOL... I had no idea that was a joke... English is not my first language though... so excuse my ignorance... Yes, I tthink pretty much (also with the help of my books) I could answer them...
In EO forum you are guest ...here we are in the debate area
I am not mad at all
Philothei
Lol that is good you are not mad!
Might I ask, what is your first language? Let me guess...Greek?!!
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27th June 2008, 10:46 PM
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Reps: 6,401,276,052,901,716,992 (power: 6,401,276,052,901,766) | | It is Greek I am from Athens... born and raised. Came to the states for studies and live here now. Do you live in Quebec?Many Greeks live in Canada.. I have classmates from there now they are priests there... Quebec is a nice city I hear... I hope someday i make it in Monteal I have two friends living there... Quebec seems to far away and they all speak French...
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Wondering what kind of Christianity would allow such mindset
SAVE GREECE!
"But he saves the poor from the sword, from their mouth, and from the hand of the mighty."
Job 5.15
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27th June 2008, 11:13 PM
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Reps: 9,232,419,481,440,484 (power: 9,232,419,481,452) | | Originally Posted by Philothei It is Greek I am from Athens... born and raised. Came to the states for studies and live here now. Do you live in Quebec?Many Greeks live in Canada.. I have classmates from there now they are priests there... Quebec is a nice city I hear... I hope someday i make it in Monteal I have two friends living there... Quebec seems to far away and they all speak French...
Yes, I live in Québec, but not Québec city.. I live in Montréal!
Montréal and Québec city are both two beautiful cities!
And yeah, we do speak French here! But, English people do not have problems getting around, because most people speak at least enough English to have a basic conversation!
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28th June 2008, 02:35 AM
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The sample size is very large for a survey, 35 000. I have very high confidence in the results, although I don't really know why some atheists believe in God. Perhaps it has something to do with the wording, a universal spirit might be more attractive to some atheists than God.
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28th June 2008, 09:54 AM
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28th June 2008, 10:27 AM
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7th July 2008, 07:47 AM
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Reps: 165 (power: 0) | | Originally Posted by Secundulus According to this PEW Poll, 21% of Athiests believe in God and 8% are absolutely certain he exists.
Hmmmmm
I guess those atheists aren't really as smart as they keep telling us. LOL
An 'atheist' is a person who... by definition... does not believe that god(s) exist. So, Pew's finding that 21% of atheists believe in god(s) is just plain... ahhhh... oh, gee... what's that word?... oh, yeah... STUPID.
It is the very same thing as saying that 21% of the people who do NOT believe that god(s) exist, DO BELIEVE that god(s) exist. IF a person says that he is an 'atheist' AND that person says he "believes in god", THEN that person is NOT an 'atheist'... that person is a dumbass.
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7th July 2008, 09:39 AM
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I think that there were other very interesting statistics. (And I agree--if someone believes in God but says they are an atheist is a confused theist, not a confused atheist, because by definition they aren't an atheist.) Often Christians (of various stripes, Evangelicals included) seem to be very confused
on what Christianity is and what it teaches.
(Of course, that's been a problem with Christianity since the very beginning...who is a "true" Christian and who is false?)
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7th July 2008, 01:28 PM
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thank you for the post. Originally Posted by Secundulus According to this PEW Poll, 21% of Athiests believe in God and 8% are absolutely certain he exists.
if you read the poll more closely you'll discover that only 6% of atheists think that God is a personal deity ala the Abrahamic traditions, 12% considered it an impersonal force, more like deists and 3% said they don't know.
without knowing how the question was asked the results of the survey are hard to put into context in a meaningful way. I guess those atheists aren't really as smart as they keep telling us. LOL 
i don't think that your brush is wide enough, perhaps a larger one would allow you to paint everyone at the same time?
this poll has nothing to do with intelligence and i have no idea how you could think that it does... perhaps you are being sarcastic?
metta,
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