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17th June 2008, 08:48 AM
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Reps: 44,404,246,110,554,912 (power: 44,404,246,110,568) | | Originally Posted by Calminian  I think you're both wrong. Learn the limitations of science, and you'll better understand the Creator who is not confined to natural law.
You are jumping.
1. Learn science
2. Learn more science
3. "know" the limitation of science.
You can not "learn" the third one. |
17th June 2008, 09:55 AM
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And, in fact, it is---to all people who actually study and work with the science.
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17th June 2008, 09:57 AM
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Reps: 12,567,898,174,147,644 (power: 12,567,898,174,166) | | Originally Posted by juvenissun You are jumping.
1. Learn science
2. Learn more science
3. "know" the limitation of science.
You can not "learn" the third one.
Yes you can. And you have to. You can't know the limitations of science without learning them.
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17th June 2008, 11:36 AM
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Reps: 10,818,175,665,014,668 (power: 10,818,175,665,020) | | Originally Posted by RobertByers Evolution will never stop its demise till it makes its case on the merits.
The ONLY people who think evolution is on a demise are those who delve completely into creationism. Everybody else sees it becoming stronger.
Denial is not just a river in Egypt... |
17th June 2008, 01:46 PM
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Reps: 44,404,246,110,554,912 (power: 44,404,246,110,568) | | Originally Posted by gluadys Yes you can. And you have to. You can't know the limitations of science without learning them.
Hi, Gluadys. 
I agree with you on this. |
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And fauns are more likely to invite you in for a cup of tea.
I have a meadow muffin for you, but its not good with tea.
Look at the avatar. Its what it looks like, not what someone says it is. Read the sig. Read the profile.
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17th June 2008, 08:37 PM
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Look at the avatar. Its what it looks like, not what someone says it is. Read the sig. Read the profile.
You mean a demon? You know what demons look like? If you have pictures in you bible I can assure you they are added illustrations and not in any Greek or Hebrew manuscripts we have (well maybe The Book of Kells).
There are fauns in the Narnia chronicles, cloven hooves, hairy legs and horns. Should we ban the Lion the Witch and the Wardrobe? There are satyrs in the King James Bible, Isaiah 13:21 But wild beasts of the desert shall lie there; and their houses shall be full of doleful creatures; and owls shall dwell there, and satyrs shall dance there. Perhaps we should ban people who keep quoting the AV.
But if you want to judge people on what the pictures in their avatar or signature look like, check out Exodus 22:19, Lev 8:23 and Lev 20:15&16 first. Matt 7:1 Judge not, that you be not judged. 2 For with the judgment you pronounce you will be judged, and with the measure you use it will be measured to you. Come on busterdog, we have been saved by grace, God's love has been poured into our hearts, we should be gracious in the way we treat others too.
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18th June 2008, 12:10 AM
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Reps: 341,850,127,633 (power: 341,850,134) | | Originally Posted by busterdog I have a meadow muffin for you, but its not good with tea.
Look at the avatar. Its what it looks like, not what someone says it is. Read the sig. Read the profile.
Alrighty. I read your profile. I got to your "Occupation" line, and judged that you are at least as blasphemous as you purport the OP to be for his avatar...  |
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Reps: 27,749,724,098,880,132 (power: 27,749,724,098,889) | | Originally Posted by Assyrian You mean a demon? You know what demons look like? If you have pictures in you bible I can assure you they are added illustrations and not in any Greek or Hebrew manuscripts we have (well maybe The Book of Kells).
There are fauns in the Narnia chronicles, cloven hooves, hairy legs and horns. Should we ban the Lion the Witch and the Wardrobe? There are satyrs in the King James Bible, Isaiah 13:21 But wild beasts of the desert shall lie there; and their houses shall be full of doleful creatures; and owls shall dwell there, and satyrs shall dance there. Perhaps we should ban people who keep quoting the AV.
But if you want to judge people on what the pictures in their avatar or signature look like, check out Exodus 22:19, Lev 8:23 and Lev 20:15&16 first. Matt 7:1 Judge not, that you be not judged. 2 For with the judgment you pronounce you will be judged, and with the measure you use it will be measured to you. Come on busterdog, we have been saved by grace, God's love has been poured into our hearts, we should be gracious in the way we treat others too.
More liberal nonsense on the bible. Lets see, in your judgment, should Spain join the EU? If I make as much sense as you, the response would be," God forbid, you would go to h e double hockey sticks for passing "judgment.""
THe need to take down the avatar is good judgment. If you think I have passed on the guy's character or salvation, or wish that I had, again, trying re-reading until you get it.
If it were pornographic, my "judgment" would be to take it down. Would that be ungracious? Come on. What are you saying? That I have no right (or God forbids me) to post an opinion about the use of symbols on a Christian website?
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