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9th June 2008, 03:28 PM
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Reps: 10 (power: 0) | | | Has Aspergers anything to do with devils?? Hello, everyone...
Mine is a long story, but please read it...
I don't have an official AS diagnosis, but after having read a lot about it i'm pretty sure i'm an aspie. my disorder causes many troubles in my everyday life, and thus in my Christian life, too. I always mess everything up at work, due to my inability to concentrate on things and to work hard on things which are of no personal interest to me. I fail to do many important tasks beacause of my forgetfulness, lazyness and clumsiness.. and my stupid shyness is another great problem. E.g. if i have to tell some important thing to an employee, i can stand before his or her door for several minutes and then turn and go, just because i can't remember his or her name and don't know how to adress him or her and think it would be inappropriate to ask what his/her name is. I deal with video editing, and recently I found out that a dvd that i've made half a year ago, was actually blank though having its name printed on it, and a box with printed cover. and the project was erased long time ago so there's nothing i can do about it. and i can't remember if i've made any extra copies... and such things happen quite often... my dad is a christian and also my boss. otherwise i would be fired long ago, or never get this job actually. when i fist read about AS and realised i had it, i told him, but he didn't believe it and said that i'm just a lazy and selfish swine and never care about the others hence all these problems of mine...and he's right in a way beacause my disorder often makes me act like this, but i never wanted to be like this! i was a "little professor" kind of boy when i was a child, and i even went to school a year earlier than kids here in Russia do (at 6, not at 7), so no one can tell i have a mental disorder. but languages was the only thing i was really good at, anyway, and i do really stupid things when working with all kinds of electronic equipment...
Well, the point is that my AS actually makes me sin... It seems to that i don't love anyone but myself, cause it often seems i don't care about people though i never mean to hurt anyone... and i can't be a good worker anyway which is also a sin... I'm not yet baptised because i can't change my ways and bear any fruits of repentance...
And all the time i feel like i'm being controlled and don't belong to myself.. just don't have any power to do what i know is right... and sometimes I feel that what i'm going to do is defeinitely wrong and stupid, but i just don't know the right way..
I know from the Bible and the Screwtape Letters that the devils do exist, and i think that aspergers is their work... but in times When Jesus came it seemed obvious that a person was obsessed with devils and there are many examples of Jesus and His disciples chasing them out... but nowadays it seems that Christians never do it and try to fight devils with medicine... Aspergers is incurable as far as i know...
Well please share your thoughts on this topic, and i'll be very grateful if someone gives advice or simply prays for me... | 
9th June 2008, 10:28 PM
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Reps: 1,717,502 (power: 1,723) | | | I have aspbergurs andsometimes i wonder the same time. but if ur a saved christian u have the holy spirit. and cant possably be possessed by a devil. mental illness is the work of a fallen world not the devil. the devils work is doubt,discouragment,dislusion,disobdience, and all things unholy
__________________ Psalm 72:12-14 NKJV For he will deliver the needy when he cries,the poor also and him who has no helper. He will spare the poor and needy, and save the souls of the needy. He will redeem thier life from oppression and violence; And precious shall be thier blood in his sight | 
10th June 2008, 01:19 AM
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Reps: 10 (power: 0) | | | Thanks for your understanding, Kyle! But I just wonder what can I do if it's my illness, not devil, makes me sin? Sometimes I feel I don't have the Holy Spirit, cause otherwise He would prevent me from sins... But I know I can't be what people and especially my father expect me to be... For a long time I have been thinking that maybe i should find another job where I would be less likely to cause so much trouble... Maybe that's the right option.. I'm very desperate now, and i just can't go on like this anymore... I've been praying to get rid of these devils, or to become just like everyone else but nothing changes... I was trying to convince myself that I'm absolutely normal and don't have any kind of disorder, but that also didn't work... I don't wanna be a trouble to anyone... I would prefer being persecuted or to suffer unfairly, but i don't only suffer myself, but make people I love suffer... and all my sufferings come from my own shortcomings... Please anybody tell me what to do... | 
10th June 2008, 11:38 AM
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Reps: 1,717,502 (power: 1,723) | | | just remember god said seek him with all ur heart, as long as u are doing that u are pleasing him, no matter how much u are letting down others or sinning. i myself dont feel like i have the holy spirit either. all u can do is try ur best. and god will do the rest. THE FACT U CARE about ur relationship with god shows me u have the holy spirit. people without the holy spirit could care less. and it takes the holy spirit to call jesus lord. and u may be wondering why ur not like the other people who dont sin alot, but remember god came to save sinners not the righteous. Dont let the devil get u to doubt what the lod has done on the cross, it is by what he has done not by anything u can do. u may not be able to earn his love, but the great thing is u dont have too!
__________________ Psalm 72:12-14 NKJV For he will deliver the needy when he cries,the poor also and him who has no helper. He will spare the poor and needy, and save the souls of the needy. He will redeem thier life from oppression and violence; And precious shall be thier blood in his sight | 
10th June 2008, 01:18 PM
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Reps: 10 (power: 0) | | | Thank you so much Kyle! you really encouraged me, bro! | 
11th June 2008, 12:57 AM
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Reps: 30,383,514,274,900,616 (power: 30,383,514,274,909) | | | I, too, am a born-again Christian with AS. I have been involved in deliverance ministries in the past and commonly have the gift of discernment. It would appear that at least some of our condition is demonic at its root. I am not sure about ALL of it. My HFA son and non-verbal daughter both appear to be in a type of demonic bondage and my daughter's case has been confirmed. Some of her behaviors mimic Mark 9:17.
Even when I was at these churches, they discerned some kind of spiritual activity on me and they would not have, had it been only physical.
Other qualities make us proficient artisans [a.k.a. technicians] like those employed in the building of the Temple in 1 Kings and 1 & 2 Chronicles.
If you have a major interest, like most with AS do, you may want to try a job that lines up with that interest.
__________________ Sabertooth "As iron sharpens iron, so one man sharpens another." Proverbs 27:17 "We demolish arguments and every pretension that sets itself up against the knowledge of God, and we take captive every thought to make it obedient to Christ." 2Corinthians 10:5 To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
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12th June 2008, 07:01 AM
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Reps: 10 (power: 0) | | | Thanks, Sabertooth! But did anyone have any success in casting those devils out of you and your kids? and are there any churches nowadays where it successfully practiced? | 
12th June 2008, 10:51 AM
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Reps: 30,383,514,274,900,616 (power: 30,383,514,274,909) | | Originally Posted by mityaman ...did anyone have any success in casting those devils out of you and your kids...?
So far, not yet. But, if you recall, the one in Mark 9 took extra effort, too.
__________________ Sabertooth "As iron sharpens iron, so one man sharpens another." Proverbs 27:17 "We demolish arguments and every pretension that sets itself up against the knowledge of God, and we take captive every thought to make it obedient to Christ." 2Corinthians 10:5 To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
Philippians 2:10, 11 | 
12th June 2008, 06:50 PM
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Reps: 1,717,502 (power: 1,723) | | Originally Posted by Sabertooth So far, not yet. But, if you recall, the one in Mark 9 took extra effort, too.
so what u are saying is that when a aspbergur christian gets saved, he still has a demon in him. once a person is saved all demons are casted out of us, yes we might be opresssed by demons, but we will never be demon possesed after salvation but filled with the holy spirt.
how can u have a demon and the holy spirit at the same time.
please dont think im dismissing the possabilty that AS could has a demonic route, im just saying u shouldnt worry about being controlled or possesed by a demon if ur a saved christian. becuz once saved u belong to jesus and no power and hell can take that away.
__________________ Psalm 72:12-14 NKJV For he will deliver the needy when he cries,the poor also and him who has no helper. He will spare the poor and needy, and save the souls of the needy. He will redeem thier life from oppression and violence; And precious shall be thier blood in his sight | 
12th June 2008, 07:05 PM
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Reps: 30,383,514,274,900,616 (power: 30,383,514,274,909) | | Oppression can still account for these symptoms, even measurable neurological ones. Most incidences of demonic oppression show up as psychopathology and/or neuropathy, at least in First World countries. Healing and deliverance often overlap.
__________________ Sabertooth "As iron sharpens iron, so one man sharpens another." Proverbs 27:17 "We demolish arguments and every pretension that sets itself up against the knowledge of God, and we take captive every thought to make it obedient to Christ." 2Corinthians 10:5 To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
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