As usual for a xian with a shallow knowledge of Hinduism. Hindus do not believe that this body needs to be thrown off. Motto of Yoga philosophy: Sound mind ONLY in a sound body. You you conyest this motto?
Some Hindu sects do definitely believe the body has to be thrown off. For basically every idea you can imagine, there is a Hindu group that believes in it. Advaita, dvaita, impersonal god, personal god, seeking transcendence from this world or becoming indifferent to the vicissitudes of it.
That from a xian who believes man is born a sinner? Hindus believe every one is born GOOD. Difference.
If man is born a sinner, how is your god's creation good? Who caused evil? Biblegod. Who created satan? Biblegod!!!
Obviously you know nothing of Orthodox Christianity, Orthodoxy doesn't believe man is born a sinner or evil.
You really can't make this argument without criticising your own religion - if you try to disparage Christianity in this way then Hinduism is even worse. If Hindu gods created the world, they still created a world with the same exact qualities attributed to the Christian god - a world with death, war, evil and strife present in it. Whether you call god Yahweh or Brahman or Krsna there's no way getting around this. At least in the Christian system there is supposed to be an end to evil, in Hinduism it's just a constant cycle - evil may go away for a time, but it will come back.
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Deyr fé, deyja frændr, deyr sjálfr et sama; ek veit einn, at aldri deyr: dómr of dauðan hvern.
Cattle die, kinsmen die the self must also die;I know one thing which never dies: the reputation of each dead man.
Some Hindu sects do definitely believe the body has to be thrown off. For basically every idea you can imagine, there is a Hindu group that believes in it. Advaita, dvaita, impersonal god, personal god, seeking transcendence from this world or becoming indifferent to the vicissitudes of it.
Obviously you know nothing of Orthodox Christianity, Orthodoxy doesn't believe man is born a sinner or evil.
You really can't make this argument without criticising your own religion - if you try to disparage Christianity in this way then Hinduism is even worse. If Hindu gods created the world, they still created a world with the same exact qualities attributed to the Christian god - a world with death, war, evil and strife present in it. Whether you call god Yahweh or Brahman or Krsna there's no way getting around this. At least in the Christian system there is supposed to be an end to evil, in Hinduism it's just a constant cycle - evil may go away for a time, but it will come back.
yhwh created the world with evil. Augustine: Evil is not good, but it is good to have evil. So evil is a good necessasity for Yhwh. Hence xianity can never get rid of it. Satan is going about thumbing his nose.
Brahma did nor create evil, man becomes evil by his own doings. Be a good man and get out of the cycle.
yhwh created the world with evil. Augustine: Evil is not good, but it is good to have evil. So evil is a good necessasity for Yhwh. Hence xianity can never get rid of it. Satan is going about thumbing his nose.
Brahma did nor create evil, man becomes evil by his own doings. Be a good man and get out of the cycle.
Death is NOT evil
You fail when you get to Augustine, his teaches are not, despite the perception of most people, universally accepted or considered dogma and the Orthodox church does not believe in them. Before Augustine came up with his ideas no one held them, and Oriental and Eastern Orthodox churches do not hold them.
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Deyr fé, deyja frændr, deyr sjálfr et sama; ek veit einn, at aldri deyr: dómr of dauðan hvern.
Cattle die, kinsmen die the self must also die;I know one thing which never dies: the reputation of each dead man.
I don't think it is, but that is besides the point. Whatever god there is, it has allowed evil to exist or else it would not be. The only thing that sets religions apart is whether they think evil will one day cease to be, or whether the propensity for it to occur will always be present.
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Deyr fé, deyja frændr, deyr sjálfr et sama; ek veit einn, at aldri deyr: dómr of dauðan hvern.
Cattle die, kinsmen die the self must also die;I know one thing which never dies: the reputation of each dead man.
I don't think it is, but that is besides the point. Whatever god there is, it has allowed evil to exist or else it would not be. The only thing that sets religions apart is whether they think evil will one day cease to be, or whether the propensity for it to occur will always be present.
Simple. Try not to be evil, don't nurture your evil tendencies, promote good ones. What is the problem?
Simple. Try not to be evil, don't nurture your evil tendencies, promote good ones. What is the problem?
Nothing, you're not replying to what was actually said. You tried to present Jesus/Yahweh as evil or bad and I was replying to that not what kind choices people can make.
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Deyr fé, deyja frændr, deyr sjálfr et sama; ek veit einn, at aldri deyr: dómr of dauðan hvern.
Cattle die, kinsmen die the self must also die;I know one thing which never dies: the reputation of each dead man.
yhwh created the world with evil. Augustine: Evil is not good, but it is good to have evil. So evil is a good necessasity for Yhwh. Hence xianity can never get rid of it. Satan is going about thumbing his nose.
First off, as Aesjn said, we Orthodox do not accept Augustine and his teachings.
Brahma did nor create evil, man becomes evil by his own doings. Be a good man and get out of the cycle.
This is the same thing that Christianity, Judaism, and Islam (I think) teach. God created the world and man perfect, but by man's own devices, he fell from perfection which happened during the fall of humanity which is illustrated in Eve eating the fruit off of the tree.
Death is NOT evil
The Orthodox Church believes that when Christ was crucified, He died for creation and renewing it, so when a person's body dies, the soul goes to God and awaits the general resurrection at Christ second coming. We don't see dying as a bad thing either since we know that only the body dies but the soul is immortal.
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