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ChoirCupcake · #11 9th May 2008, 10:55 PM

Sorry to branch off-topic... but ... Woah I have never really looked at identity this way. That's really interesting! Thanks for that.

Originally Posted by twistedsketch

When you are born again, and become a disciple, you have a new identity. Thieves who come to God are not to identify as thieves and go on stealing. They have a clean record and a new identity in the eyes of God. He has signed the legal papers. They are to put their old lifestyles and sins away and learn how to live as good Christians. Same with homosexuals and bisexuals. You're going to have temptations, but if you identify yourself as one of them, you are living a lie because if you came to God and became a Christian, He signed the papers. You are a Christian to Him now, and there is no reason to live as a bisexual or homosexual. You are to get rid of that lifestyle and learn how to walk with the Lord. Identifying yourself as a "Gay Christian" or "Bisexual Christian" doesn't make any more sense than calling yourself a "Stealing Christian," a "Greedy Christian," or a "Lying Christian." Those are false identities, the only true identity for a Christian is "Christian." And when the Christian who is susceptible to stealing, lying, fornication, or whatever falls into that sin, that Christian is living a lie. They are to stop, adjust, return to the Lord, and do better next time.

Does that make sense?

Emmy · #12 12th May 2008, 04:02 PM

Dear Miss B007. I say this humbly and with love, if you really mean that you want help, and truly love the Lord, I can only agree with " twistedsketch." To become a Christian is a new woman in Christ. God does love you, and God will help you to change. There are no " Gay Christians and no Bi-Sexual Christians," just as there are no " Lying Christians, or Thieving Christians." God will help you to change, if you ask Him to, and you will feel a new woman, Miss B007. Greetings from Emmy, your sister in Christ.

GardeningGirl · #13 12th May 2008, 07:10 PM

Be assured that the Lord loves you 100%, no matter what. I've a sibling who has homosexual tendencies, and he's also a seminary graduate. He refuses to be ordained because of this 'thorn in the flesh,' and he battles his attractions with all the strength the Lord has given him to do so. His belief is that it is a sinful desire but no more sinful than other desires that are displeasing to God. He's prayed for YEARS for this to be removed from him, but the Lord has not yet freed him from this. That's where one must have faith that the Lord will use this mightily in His life ... as I pray that He will in yours. I'm so sorry that you are struggling ... please give it all over to the Lord, as He is not surprised by any of this, and He can give you strength to please Him and to live a life that honors Him.

GardeningGirl

hsilgne · #14 13th May 2008, 12:22 AM

Remember, Jesus is always waitng for us when/if we fall. Have you seen this? ... cool video.

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gabrielListens · #15 13th May 2008, 05:15 AM

As long as you are willing to forgive others, God will forgive YOU. I do many things that offend God because sometimes I can't help myself. We all sin, we all fall. "The spirit is willing but the flesh is weak" (Matthew 26:41). Not just today, but every day. Repent and forgive. Repent and forgive. It doesn't matter what your sin is, God awaits our repentance daily and grants us forgiveness upon our willingness to forgive others.

Did you know that every time someone asks us "how are you?" and we answer "fine" when we are not really fine, we are lying? Also, every time we wish harm on another person we have committed that sin in our hearts. All of us need to repent continually so that when our time comes to meet Jesus we will be ready. (see parable of the 10 maidens - Matthew 25:1-13)

For you it may be a struggle with your sexuality, for another person it may be a struggle with anger, and yet another may have a struggle with drugs or alcohol or cheating on their spouses... It does not matter what your struggle is and/or how we are sinning. What matters is that we wish to be forgiven by God for everything we do that offends Him. This honors Him. This shows Him how much we love Him.

Elijah2 · #16 13th May 2008, 06:27 AM

Hi Miss B,

You are not the first, to ask these questions, and I will as direct and honest as I can be.

I am really religous.
I would rather have heard you say that you are a disciple of our Lord Jesus Christ, because there are many religious Christians, but they are not CHRIST-centred, not saying that you are not Christ-centred.

I am also bisexual and I think I am a lesbian.
Are you married?

How do you know that you are a lesbian?

I know that God does not like that.
It's not a matter of thinking that God doesn't like it, because it's SIN, and HE, our Lord Jesus Christ, commands that SIN has to be confessed, and repented to and forgiven by HIM, our Lord Jesus Christ.

But I need a truthful answer.
His Word is the truth that you will know, the truth that sets you free (John 8:32). Not some wishy-washy gospel.

Now, I will speak the truth, and please don't accuse me of being rude or accusing or making assumiptions.

So, lets be honest with each other.

Even if I am born again, and everything (im about to get baptized) and I asked god for forgiveness,
Well, that's good to ask HIM for forgiveness, but when we sin, we are suppose to confess and repent our sins, aloud to our Lord Jesus Christ, before asking for forgiveness.

Therefore, have you confessed and repented your sins?

Now, you say that you are bisexual, so I am asking you a direct question, are you in immoral relationship, such as unmarried sexual relationships as a bisexual?

"Do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived. Neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor homosexuals, nor sodomites, nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners will inherit the kingdom of God. (Do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived. Neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor homosexuals, nor sodomites, nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners will inherit the kingdom of God.)" (1 Cor. 6:9-10)

and I say like this will I go to hell even tho I totally believe in him and everything?
After reading the above verses, what do you think is the answer to you questions? I am sure that the opening and ending verses "will not inherit the Kingdom of God", is sufficient to see what the outcome of those sins listed in those verses.

These words quoted are God's Words, not my words, not any pastor's words, or any other Christian's words, they are HIS WORDS.

So how do you get yourself righteous.

You accept good Christian counselling by those whose ministry is saving HIS SHEEP from destruction. Many have been in the same situation as you, and have been set free from captivity, and are now living a life of Freedom in Christ, as per His Word.

Now I'm not accusing, or pointing a finger, but that is what His Word says.

So please Miss B, get some good GOD-anointed Christian counselling, and work through all the things in your life that has probably caused you to sin. Through this you can received inner healing, that will heal your broken-heart.

Now, this can only be reached by confession and repentance of ALL SINS, and not just some sins. Repentance also means that you won't do it again, NOT maybe!

It's all about SIN, not about apathy, empathy or sympathy. And it's all about LOVE and FORGIVENESS, and obedience and discipline to His Word.

His Word is very definite about what SIN is.

Many may distort it to make people feel comfortable, but the TRUTH is what sets you free, not a COMFORT ZONE, the TRUTH is His Word.

Is that honest enough?

I can understand the quandry you are in, "But let him ask in faith, with no doubting, for he who doubts is like a wave of the sea driven and tossed by the wind." (James 1:6)

Be blessed in Jesus' Name.