Characteristics of Progressive and Evangelical Adventists
For a description of Progressive Adventism, please see this Wikipedia article. Here is an excerpt from it:
Progressive Adventists are members of the Seventh-day Adventist Church who disagree with certain beliefs traditionally or commonly held today in the church. They think of themselves as theologically progressive relative to the denomination's mainstream. They are often described as liberal Adventism by other Adventists, however the term "progressive" is generally preferred as a self-description. This is partly because most are not liberal Christians (although a small portion actually are). This article describes terms such as evangelical Adventism, cultural Adventism, charismatic Adventism, and progressive Adventism and others, which are generally related but have distinctions.
Progressives typically question one or more of the church's more peculiar, or "distinctive" beliefs such as the investigative judgment, the remnant, a future global Sunday-law, or an overuse of Ellen G. White's writings. A major factor in its rise was as a result of Adventists mixing more widely with other Christians, which was sparked by the need for government accreditation for its educational institutions. However it is an emerging movement with an emerging definition, and its proponents resist drawing up any formal belief statement. Perceptions and definitions of it may differ somewhat depending on the author, although much is common is also clearly discernable.
4. As an interested outsider with my nose pressed to the window, I see quite a bit of theological diversity within Seventh-day Adventism. In some ways it reminds me of present-day evangelicalism. One strand of Adventism appears quite traditional, another very liberal, and still another distinctly evangelical. There also seems to be a segment that is atheological in nature and reflects what I would call a cultural Adventism. The strand of Adventism that Martin and I most identified with is evangelical Adventism. If the use of the word “evangelical” is too self-serving on my part, then maybe I could call it a “gospel-oriented” Adventism. The word “evangelical” comes, of course, from the Greek euangellion, which means gospel or “good news.”
Gospel-oriented Adventists are indeed genuine Adventists. They believe deeply that God raised the Seventh-day Adventist church up for a special purpose—to usher in the Second Coming of Christ. They also deeply respect and honor the seventh-day Sabbath. In addition they believe that Ellen G. White possessed the spirit of prophecy. However, gospel-oriented Adventists owe their final allegiance to the authority of Scripture alone (sola Scriptura). Ellen G. White’s writings are tested by Scripture and not the reverse.
The doctrinal feature that sets this branch of Adventism apart is its view of the gospel. Gospel-oriented Adventists believe that their right standing before God rests not in their own obedience to the Law of God, but rather they place their complete confidence in Jesus Christ and in his perfect substitutionary atonement for their sins on the cross.9 These evangelically oriented Adventists believe that salvation comes solely by grace, through faith alone, and only in Jesus Christ (Eph. 2:8-9). They also believe that the Christian life is lived out passionately in gratitude to God for his precious gift of salvation (Eph 2:10).
Evangelical Adventists also recognize that Adventism’s important doctrinal distinctives of Sabbatarianism, the spirit of prophecy, and the belief in the imminence of Christ’s Second Coming are only made truly meaningful when a person fully embraces the gospel of grace. Evangelical Adventists insist that if God raised their church up for a special purpose, then they definitely can’t afford to get the gospel message wrong.
The roots of this robust type of Adventism go back to the nineteenth century and can be traced through the Adventist leaders who dialogued with Barnhouse and Martin. I also see it clearly articulated in the gospel presentation found in the classic Adventist source known as Questions on Doctrine. As the Seventh-day Adventist church continues its rapid growth in the twenty-first century, I pray that God will bless the church with an increasing number of Adventists who believe, teach, and live out this grace-oriented understanding of the gospel of Jesus Christ.
Just before he died, Walter Martin expressed to me a few concerns about the theological state of affairs within Adventism, as he saw it. He wondered whether Adventism really stood behind the book Questions on Doctrine, and, if so, why the book had been allowed to go out of print. He also expressed concern about whether Adventism had come to view Ellen G. White as the infallible interpreter of Scripture. He was also perplexed by the fact that leading evangelical Adventists such as Desmond Ford and others had been fired by the church. Finally, he told me that he was planning to write a new book on Seventh-day Adventism, and he asked me to assist him on that project. The Lord willing, I am planning to write a book that will offer an updated evangelical assessment of Adventism that will build upon Martin’s important work.
In retrospect, Walter Martin had a significant and abiding influence upon the Adventist church itself. He also greatly influenced how an entire generation of evangelical Christians came to view Seventh-day Adventism.
__________________ Therefore we do not lose heart. Though outwardly we are wasting away, yet inwardly we are being renewed day by day. For our light and momentary troubles are achieving for us an eternal glory that far outweighs them all. So we fix our eyes not on what is seen, but on what is unseen. For what is seen is temporary, but what is unseen is eternal. (2 Corinthians 4:16-18)
ken sample's definition is bad here is a bette one
The major doctrinal issues which united this group [Evangelical Adventism] were: 1) Righteousness by faith: This group accepted the Reformation understanding of righteousness by faith (according to which righteousness by faith included justification only, and is a judicial act of God whereby He declares sinners to be just on the basis of Christ’s own righteousness). Our standing before God rests in the imputed righteousness of Christ, which we receive through faith alone. Sanctification is the accompanying fruit and not the root of salvation. 2) The human nature of Christ: Jesus Christ possessed a sinless human nature with no inclination or propensities toward sin. In that sense, Christ’s human nature was like that of Adam’s before the Fall.... 3) The events of 1844: Jesus Christ entered into the most holy place (heaven itself) at His ascension; the sanctuary doctrine and the investigative judgment (traditional literalism and perfectionism) have no basis in Scripture. 4) Assurance of salvation: Our standing and assurance before God rest solely in Christ’s imputed righteousness; sinless perfection is not possible this side of heaven... 5) Authority of Ellen G. White: Neither she nor her writings are infallible, and they should not be used as a source of doctrinal authority....
Now that is an Evanglical Adventist Statment
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I disagree. I think it's a good description. We discussed it in the FSG thread and settled on that one because the other quote was actually from an anti-Evangelical-Adventist article.
__________________ Therefore we do not lose heart. Though outwardly we are wasting away, yet inwardly we are being renewed day by day. For our light and momentary troubles are achieving for us an eternal glory that far outweighs them all. So we fix our eyes not on what is seen, but on what is unseen. For what is seen is temporary, but what is unseen is eternal. (2 Corinthians 4:16-18)
I have often questioned the diverse groups of Adventists that seem to gather in their own circles under a big unbrella. I'm happy to see this P/M/F section, but I question the definitions. I think there is more diversity here. Personally, I have been leary of excepting the "Christian" tag for the fact that Chrisitianity as a movement is so miss-represented by so many groups, the Chrisitian Right, evangelicals, fundamentalists, crusading Christians. I'm not pushing anyone into a corner here or judging anyone based on beliefs, I just think in the past centuries what the Church was supposed to be has been lost and the true message Jesus intended to be portrayed is kind of tossed aside. The "Chrisitian" tag worked quite well for the early Church as it epitomized everything they were... simply followers of Christ. Yet as this true definition has been lost, I tend to be reffered to as a "follower of Christ." Simple and sweet, sure I am a Christian and have a need and desire to follow Christ. This isn't about hiding anything, but about portraying who we really are.
The same deal with being Christian is happening with the Seventh-Day Adventist Church. It seems that with us trying to be more evangelical, we are losing the ability to reach out to others and are losing the relevant message we have. I think the true adventist denomination has fallen to the same pits, however much truth it claims. Still, I am not a denominational Christian as about every Christian in America tends to become, I am simply a follower of Christ. In this sense, the definition of Progressive or Moderate is hard to place on me as a person. I believe in the SDA doctrines, but I tend to have slightly different interpretations and I differ on a variety of certain views the church adopts that I feel the Bible addresses differently (not prophecy as much as other issues). That being said I am a "follower of Christ" who tends to have more "progressive" views of this journey through faith.
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The Progressive/Moderate Adventist forum is pretty inclusive, and the goal is not to label everyone. Some labels are unfortunately necessary at CF because of the way the congregational forums work, however. This forum has been split from the Traditional Adventist forum, so those who don't fit in there are welcome to come over here. The descriptions that have been posted here are not meant to be definitive; they're just meant to give visitors to the forum an idea of what generally characterizes these groups. We recognize that the Adventist Church is made up of members from all over the theological spectrum and that not everyone fits into a neat little box.
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I feel right at home in this thread because I have a brief histrory with the SDA Church and was baptized as a SDA. I think that they have a great truth with them. However, like I think that many of you may have come to realize in your own walks, there are some things that can be hard to sit with in the Church. I came from a non denominational background and lets just say some doctrines are more easy to digest then others.