Do any of the YEC's out there understand Thermodynamics?

I mean, why do you keep using it incorrectly in evolutionary arguments. You know there are plenty of books and/or websites that clearly explain the laws of thermodynamics so at least you wouldn't look as foolish as when you use it incorrectly.

**** This post is a public service announcement for the Thermodynamically challenged *****

I understand Thermondynamics Chi, the Bible even understands Thermodynamics:

Psa 102:25 "Of old You founded the earth, And the heavens are the work of Your hands.

Psa 102:26 "Even they will perish, but You endure; And all of them will wear out like a garment; Like clothing You will change them and they will be changed.

Psa 102:27 "But You are the same, And Your years will not come to an end.

Things do not improve over time. They wear out, cool off, erode, fade, decompose, dry out, and rot. This is the Second Law of Thermodynamics, known as "entropy". You cannot reverse the fact that things are becoming more disorganized, and adding energy to something does not automatically give it the ability to become more organized unless there is a means of harnessing that energy, like photosynthesis. However, photsynthesis is not a universal process which we can all take part it in.

The universe is wearing out...it is not getting better. You should know this because it can be clearly observed. The only people who argue this are the same ones who say the Bible is for fools.

Further food for thought from a foolish Christian, and a foolish Bible:

1Co 2:6 Yet we do speak wisdom among those who are mature; a wisdom, however, not of this age nor of the rulers of this age, who are passing away;

1Co 2:7 but we speak God's wisdom in a mystery, the hidden wisdom which God predestined before the ages to our glory;

1Co 2:8 the wisdom which none of the rulers of this age has understood; for if they had understood it they would not have crucified the Lord of glory;

1Co 2:9 but just as it is written, "THINGS WHICH EYE HAS NOT SEEN AND EAR HAS NOT HEARD, AND which HAVE NOT ENTERED THE HEART OF MAN, ALL THAT GOD HAS PREPARED FOR THOSE WHO LOVE HIM."

1Co 2:10 For to us God revealed them through the Spirit; for the Spirit searches all things, even the depths of God.

1Co 2:11 For who among men knows the thoughts of a man except the spirit of the man which is in him? Even so the thoughts of God no one knows except the Spirit of God.

1Co 2:12 Now we have received, not the spirit of the world, but the Spirit who is from God, so that we may know the things freely given to us by God,

1Co 2:13 which things we also speak, not in words taught by human wisdom, but in those taught by the Spirit, combining spiritual thoughts with spiritual words.

1Co 2:14 But a natural man does not accept the things of the Spirit of God, for they are foolishness to him; and he cannot understand them, because they are spiritually appraised.

1Co 2:15 But he who is spiritual appraises all things, yet he himself is appraised by no one.

1Co 2:16 For WHO HAS KNOWN THE MIND OF THE LORD, THAT HE WILL INSTRUCT HIM? But we have the mind of Christ.

I mean, why do you keep using it incorrectly in evolutionary arguments. You know there are plenty of books and/or websites that clearly explain the laws of thermodynamics so at least you wouldn't look as foolish as when you use it incorrectly.

From my understanding, the 2nd law of thermodynamics tells us that within a thermodynamically closed system, entropy (the measure of energy no longer available for work) tends to increase over time.

An alternative interpretation of this law simply tells us that in a closed system order tends to decrease. Where in such a system no overall gain of order can be attained as the total number of energy available for work is steadily decreasing. And it would seem that no upward progressive organization of matter within such a system can occur as required by evolution (an increase in order).

There is however small local exceptions on a molecular basis that are possible – this exception I suppose is the basis for the wishful thinking of evolutionists who postulate that in such cases evolutionary mechanisms can and will take place.

But unbeknown to the undisciplined, such an exception can only occur where there is a storage medium for the locally reduced entropy to be retained and passed on. However within a normal abiotic closed system containing only raw matter such as that of a speculated primitive earth such a system would be in a state of total equilibrium as there are no living mechanisms present to receive and store these small increases of order.

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Hey Buck,

I use to quote scripture as much as you do, but as one Bible believing literalist to another:

"Give not that which is holy unto the dogs, neither cast ye your pearls before swine, lest they trample them under their feet, and turn again and rend you." Matthew 7:6

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Do you know who Jesus was refering to when He said that? Was He refering to Christians or non-Christians? Do you think Jesus was refering to Christians as dogs and swine? Why would you even post something like that in a forum where only Christians participate?

I'm not sure reasoning with him will help.

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THeBear: Why would you even post something like that in a forum where only Christians participate?

HAHAHAHAHAHAH, I doubt it. God Bless. John 1:1 If you don't believe the Bible, how can you a christian?

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Consider this an unofficial warning.

You do know that insinuating other members are not Christians is against the rules of these fora, don't you?

It's a shame really - the best weapon the YECs have is spiritual blackmail.

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I take a stand on justice, I take a stand on race
Gonna take me a TV evangelist and punch him in the face
I sing about the hope that’s in me and ask why the poor aren’t fed
But if I don’t tow the party line, it’s be better if I were dead

I’m a liberal backslider I’ve been sliding ‘bout ten years
People ask me how I’m doin’ and I confirm all their fears
I’m swearing like a trooper, and I’m drinking like a bum
I'm a liberal backslider, and it sure is a lot of fun

You can quote scripture all you want Buck, but the people here are using the same vocabulary but different dictionary.

It is not going to do any good.

Same text, different interpretation, definitely.

Same Christian belief, regardless, which is the real point.