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Originally Posted by AV1611VET View Post
I look at it this way --- embedded age reconciles Ussher's Dating with Radiometric Dating.
Why must these two be reconciled? When given two sets of mutually exclusive data, what's to stop you from the simple conclusion that at least one set of data is simply mistaken?
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No it really doesn't, because you can't tell us what makes age different from time in existence and simultaneously different from appearance of age.

Anyway, this isn't anything any more convincing than what we have already - the age was found by radiocarbon dating, not dendrochronology, so no YEC who wasn't convinced already will be now.

Also, Huon pines? Is that like renewable energy for the TARDIS?
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Originally Posted by AV1611VET View Post
Meaningless unless you can tell us what actual feature of real objects your checkers are supposed to be, assuming they are not time in existence or something that ordinarily indicates time in existence.
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Originally Posted by Nathan Poe View Post
Why must these two be reconciled?
Otherwise the two are mutually exclusive, rather than paradoxical.

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When given two sets of mutually exclusive data, what's to stop you from the simple conclusion that at least one set of data is simply mistaken?
If I told you it was 2910 miles from a specific location in San Francisco to a specific location in New York; but that it was also 2850 miles --- could you reconcile the two "contradictions" with a technicality?
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Originally Posted by AV1611VET View Post
Otherwise the two are mutually exclusive, rather than paradoxical.
They are mutually exclusive.



If I told you it was 2910 miles from a specific location in San Francisco to a specific location in New York; but that it was also 2850 miles --- could you reconcile the two "contradictions" with a technicality?
Nothing technical about it -- it depends on the route.
Travelling by land or by air? Any pilot can tell you that when you fly, you can take a shortcut over the top of the world, if your destination is far enough north.

How is this related to magically "embedded age"?
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Meaningless unless you can tell us what actual feature of real objects your checkers are supposed to be, assuming they are not time in existence or something that ordinarily indicates time in existence.
They are little round plastic things with serrated edges that dovetail into each other vertically to maintain a low center-of-gravity, usually colored red and black, and used for intellectual combat.
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Originally Posted by Nathan Poe View Post
Nothing technical about it -- it depends on the route.
Travelling by land or by air? Any pilot can tell you that when you fly, you can take a shortcut over the top of the world, if your destination is far enough north.
Someone's getting cute now --- I'm talking distance-only.

Let me make it easier:
  • Show how two opposite spots on a soccer ball can be both 31 inches and 10 inches at the same time.
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Originally Posted by AV1611VET View Post
Someone's getting cute now --- I'm talking distance-only.
I'm talking distance too. Are we taking the long route or the shortcut?

Let me make it easier:
  • Show how two opposite spots on a soccer ball can be both 31 inches and 10 inches at the same time.
Circumference vs. diameter. This has what to do with time again?
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Originally Posted by AV1611VET View Post
Someone's getting cute now --- I'm talking distance-only.

Let me make it easier:
  • Show how two opposite spots on a soccer ball can be both 31 inches and 10 inches at the same time.

Well, assuming the football (to give it its proper name) was slightly squashed, then we could be using a Euclidean geometry in the latter case, and a non-Euclidean in the former.


I'm not sure how this translates into time, though.
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Originally Posted by AV1611VET View Post
They are little round plastic things with serrated edges that dovetail into each other vertically to maintain a low center-of-gravity, usually colored red and black, and used for intellectual combat.

Ho ho ho.


You didn't tell me what feature of real objects they were supposed to represent though.
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