Yeah, but he gets the wins. I think keep him unless we have someone we are for sure know they will produce what we need. Why say hmmm...he looks good and he turns out to be worst then Cloutier? The fans will hate it, Cloutier is good untill we either get a Martin Brouder (we will never unless we hold onto someone long enough) or bring Alex Auld up to NHL and play #1 Goaltender and see if he is ready.
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Cloutier is a very good goalie and has really improved in his positioning over the last year, who knows what would have happened if he wasn't injured. Kiprusoff was on "fire" (haha) this year, he made all the big saves at the right times...etc, Next year he might not be so "hot" even though he plays just as good. Basically all the NHL's starting goalies are equal or very close to it as far as talent goes, the difference in some is how they deal with pressure. Kiprusoff never had 2 bad games in a row which is because of his mental ability not so much his physical talent. All you can ask from a goalie is that he plays good positionally, is mentally strong, works hard, puts it all out for the team, and steals a game here and there. After that it just comes down to a bounce here or there whether your team advances or plays golf.
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Tottally agree with myutmost4him on the goalie post
__________________ "Do not be misled: 'Bad company corrupts good morals.' Come back to your senses as you ought, and stop sinning; for there are some who are ignorant of God I say this to your shame."
1 Corinthians 15:33,34
"What other life can there be without the knowledge of the Scriptures, for through these Christ himself, who is the life of the faithful, becomes known?" (Jerome)
What you all talking about - free Bertuzzi ??!! Just because you are Canuck fans and he's one of the best players does NOT take away from the fact that what he did was INEXCUSABLE period. He deliberately intented to injury the guy (for the life of me can't remember his name) AND his chances of returning to play in the NHL are greatly diminished.
Is loyalty to a team so blind that justice takes the fall ?? C'MON PEOPLE - enough is enough already. Bertuzzi got off real easy and he and his handlers know it.
Ray
P.S. GO LEAFS GO !!!!
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What you all talking about - free Bertuzzi ??!! Just because you are Canuck fans and he's one of the best players does NOT take away from the fact that what he did was INEXCUSABLE period. He deliberately intented to injury the guy (for the life of me can't remember his name) AND his chances of returning to play in the NHL are greatly diminished.
Is loyalty to a team so blind that justice takes the fall ?? C'MON PEOPLE - enough is enough already. Bertuzzi got off real easy and he and his handlers know it.
Ray
P.S. GO LEAFS GO !!!!
Steve moore is probly Skating right now!! His chances of returning to the NHL are just as good as anyone's right now. Because who knows what is going to happen.
__________________ "Do not be misled: 'Bad company corrupts good morals.' Come back to your senses as you ought, and stop sinning; for there are some who are ignorant of God I say this to your shame."
1 Corinthians 15:33,34
"What other life can there be without the knowledge of the Scriptures, for through these Christ himself, who is the life of the faithful, becomes known?" (Jerome)
What you all talking about - free Bertuzzi ??!! Just because you are Canuck fans and he's one of the best players does NOT take away from the fact that what he did was INEXCUSABLE period. He deliberately intented to injury the guy (for the life of me can't remember his name) AND his chances of returning to play in the NHL are greatly diminished.
Is loyalty to a team so blind that justice takes the fall ?? C'MON PEOPLE - enough is enough already. Bertuzzi got off real easy and he and his handlers know it.
Ray
P.S. GO LEAFS GO !!!!
What Bert did was wrong and he should pay the price (by the NHL), now the courts are involved and even critics of Bertuzzi say it's a waste of time and money although it will be good for the prosecutors career. I think Bertuzzi should be punished and I think the NHL has done that as well as the media, but he's really been demonized for something which shouldn't have done much damage. In most cases, Steve Moore would have got up and played the next shift... but the damage was done obviously in way they fell. Some say Bertuzzi intentionally drove his head into the ice... look again, Bertuzzi was totally off balance trying to hold onto Moore who must have been knocked out by the punch. Then everyone piled on. Bertuzzi is just too strong and I don't think he realized that, he does now. I do however think it would be refreshing for the league to accept their part as well as the coach of the Avalanche. Moore runs Nasland and... the NHL does nothing, they hear all the talk before the game and the league does...nothing, the game gets totally out of hand, Moore avoids fighting all night long, the game is just getting ugly beyond belief but yet Moore is out there taking his shift with the game at 9-2 or whatever, great coaching by the Avs. Moore along with about 4-5 other guys should have been tossed in the 1st or 2nd period by the officials. I don't know where he was all night, but the Avs coach must not have been watching the game that night if he had Moore out on the ice in a game that out of control.
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Rom 1:25: "They exchanged God's truth for a lie and worshipped and served the creation rather than the Creator, who is blessed forever. Amen."
Joh 1:1-2: "In the beginning, the Word existed. The Word was with God, and the Word was God". "He existed in the beginning with God."
Last edited by sweetsoulsong; 18th July 2004 at 02:33 PM.
Oh remember Nazlund got chip bone in this arm because of that hit as well but didn't complain about it at all. You coudl really see that something was wrong with him in the Playoffs.
__________________ "Do not be misled: 'Bad company corrupts good morals.' Come back to your senses as you ought, and stop sinning; for there are some who are ignorant of God I say this to your shame."
1 Corinthians 15:33,34
"What other life can there be without the knowledge of the Scriptures, for through these Christ himself, who is the life of the faithful, becomes known?" (Jerome)
Just because you are Canuck fans and he's one of the best players does NOT take away from the fact that what he did was INEXCUSABLE period. He deliberately intented to injury the guy (for the life of me can't remember his name) AND his chances of returning to play in the NHL are greatly diminished. 
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