Mariology & HagiographyThe forum to discuss the area of Christian theology concerned with Mary, the Mother of Jesus as well as the theology involving Saints.
Of course. The alive in Christ are Saints and all in Christ are alive.
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"Wisdom enters through love, silence, and mortification. It is great wisdom to know how to be silent and to look at neither the remarks, nor the deeds, nor the lives of others." - St John of the Cross, OCD"
"Look for Christ Our Lord in everyone and you will then have respect and reverence for all."
- St Teresa of Jesus, OCD"
Rom 14:22 -
"Do you have faith? Have it to yourself before God. Blessed is the one not condemning himself in what he approves."
"There are not a hundred people in America who hate the Catholic Church. There are millions of people who hate what they wrongly believe to be the Catholic Church— which is, of course, quite a different thing." - Archbishop Fulton Sheen
"Jesus, Mary and Joseph, I love you very much. I beg you to spare the life of the unborn baby that I have spiritually adopted who is in danger of abortion." - Archbishop Fulton Sheen
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"It is the day of Resurrection, let us be radiant, O ye peoples: Pascha, the Lord's Pascha; for Christ God hath brought us from death to life, and from earth unto Heaven as we sing the triumphal hymn."
I guess I believe a limited version that doesn't have a purgatorial holding place.
Then you believe in what is believed by the Orthodox. There is one body made up of the Church Militant (us here on earth running the race) and the Church Triumphant (those who have finished running the race). We have no concept of a Church Penitent.
To answer the OP, I most assuredly do believe in the communion of saints.
__________________ Truly the penitent is not one who laments over the evil he has committed, but one who laments over all the evil that he is capable of committing. A wise landowner not only cuts the thornbush that has pricked him, but every thornbush on the field that is waiting to prick him. St. Nikolai Velimirovich (1880-1956) in Prayers by the Lake
Then you believe in what is believed by the Orthodox. There is one body made up of the Church Militant (us here on earth running the race) and the Church Triumphant (those who have finished running the race). We have no concept of a Church Penitent.
I would guess he really doesn't believe what the Orthodox believe though. For you differentiate between those who are in a state of "partial blessedness" and those who are in a state of "partial suffering", correct? And that your prayers can affect a positive change in this state?
I would guess he really doesn't believe what the Orthodox believe though. For you differentiate between those who are in a state of "partial blessedness" and those who are in a state of "partial suffering", correct? And that your prayers can affect a positive change in this state?
We believe that no one's fate is set in stone until the final judgement. Until that day the reposed receive a foretaste of their final destination, sort of like anticipation. Until then we are a communion of love, and we do not believe God is deaf to our prayers for our loved ones who have passed away. So while the deceased are unable to change their spiritual state before God, we believe God can and does.
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