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That's a pretty serious accusation, AV -- care to show your work?
No --- that's our ministry ---
[bible]2 Corinthians 5:18[/bible]
The following verse also applies to this Genesis 1/Genesis 2 [fake] controversy:
[bible]Mark 10:9[/bible]
And although in the context it is talking about marriage, the way it works is the same.
So, your "work" consists of Bible passages which even you admit you're using out of context?
Unimpressive.
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You answered a question -- And MrGoodBytes agrees with the answer you gave.
Q: "What is the message of the creation stories?"
Your A: [The message is] "God did it."
As a matter of fact, AV, I agree with your answer as well -- at least in part. I believe the Biblical creation stories have many messages to communicate, and chief among them is that God (the Hebrew God, not the Babylonian, Egyptian, Assyrian, or any others) created the world.
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Originally Posted by magik602
I have been puzzled on this one for a while. Could anyone help me?
Separation (i.e. growing up) of children from their parents and how angry/upset/sad the parents often become, especially after all the parents "have done for them".
EDIT- and of course we can't forget parental regret now can we?
Really, that is one of the main stories of the Genesis "creation" account
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yeah, but more so as to things like humans being created equally etc.
Humans are not considered equal in the Biblical Creation story. Eve (women) is considered the corruptor of Man and there is a good deal of racism where many have used the Curse of Ham to justify racism against Blacks.
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Originally Posted by juvenissun
I don't think the Bible said anything about disappointed parents. In fact, if my children did not go away, I will be upset.
Well then Ive got a great story for you about parental disapointment, the rebellion of children, and how parents get upset at the disobedience of their children. Perhaps you should read it
The essence of Christianity is told to us in the Garden of Eden history. The fruit that was forbidden was on the Tree of Knowledge. The subtext is, All the suffering you have is because you wanted to find out what was going on. You could be in the Garden of Eden if you had just kept your f***ing mouth shut and hadn't asked any questions.
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Humans are not considered equal in the Biblical Creation story. Eve (women) is considered the corruptor of Man and there is a good deal of racism where many have used the Curse of Ham to justify racism against Blacks.
Not only is this just plain wrong on so many levels, it doesn't even have a thing to do with the Creation.
Humans are not considered equal in the Biblical Creation story. Eve (women) is considered the corruptor of Man and there is a good deal of racism where many have used the Curse of Ham to justify racism against Blacks.
Originally Posted by AV1611VET
Not only is this just plain wrong on so many levels, it doesn't even have a thing to do with the Creation.
AV, it seems that your ignorance of theology and science is rivaled by your ignorance of church history. I am impressed at your trifecta!
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