Family Tree DNA

Originally Posted by Lulav

I posted about a free dna test recently warning those to not give a sample of your blood to anyone. Trust G-d has put you where he needs you and be happy with that!

Indeed!

I don't see the point to these tests......a positive
result would still not make someone Jewish.
Given how many Jews have assimilated away
over the centuries, I would not be surprised to
see a higher than expected percentage of
non-Jews having some sort of distant ancestry.

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Originally Posted by ChavaK

I don't see the point to these tests......a positive
result would still not make someone Jewish.
Given how many Jews have assimilated away
over the centuries, I would not be surprised to
see a higher than expected percentage of
non-Jews having some sort of distant ancestry.

An interesting thought that brings up a different view of the lost sheep being sought by the Shepherd.

That there is something in the blood that cries out to Messiah even if diluted over the millennia...

All in my family (including a half brother) are saved. His father is a staunch Jehovah's Witness and despite the efforts of many, will more than likely never change. He has too many emotional ties (two witnesses knocked on his door as he was about to attempt suicide).

He and my brother are close, still David turned away from the Watchtower Boo Boo and Backtrack Society and became a believer in Yeshua. Thought it had more to do with the prayers of our grandmother than blood. But who knows?

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I am sure of it. In any family, even in the bible, you'll have a generation, maybe just a couple kids, who suddenly believe and get back to God, then their children go astray.. then a generation later another or a few get back to God.. rather biblical.

and anyway.. considering that to the Hebrews God said.. You shall be my people and I shall be your God.. and then just a few generations later He starts saying (eg; Samuel 8) 'They have rejected me..' I don't really see the purpose of it. It may have been a crown in the beginning to be a Hebrew.. but the crown was steadily tarnished. A few prophets here and there writing and talking to God along the way.. mostly with continued dire warnings for the children of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob. Whoever they all may be.

Rather biblical there. The bible just sets us an example. Israel is all around us. Just waiting to be plucked up in God's timing.

I'm sure even Paul's and James' and Mathews' etc decendants look quite gentile to the jews by now. Considering that anything not jewish is gentile in that context.

Also not withstanding the forced conversions of the Catholic church and islam.

nice. for sure.

There is a genetic defect in my family that is generally traced to jewish populations in eastern europe. I don't have it, don't even carry it.. have been tested.. I did avoid the wrath I guess. My grandmother told me we did have jews in the family way back. She seemed to have a guilt complex about it to tell you the truth, hated jews most of her life,, relinquished a bit a few years before she died.

I'm also the only one in my family saved thus far.. I sought him a long time, many trials and tribulations along the way. I need to go see my dad before he leaves us. Just simply to say.. 'Have you made peace with God?' Could never even say the name Jesus in my parents house prior to my mom passing, she was very anti-christ. Called herself a Catholic, rather strange. They disowned me for a few years when I got saved. heh. Treated me quite badly.. catholics do that just like jews..

I actually got saved at home after not going to the cathoiic church again for 10 years, 15 actually if you discount a few christmases for the sake of family.. just seeking him seeking seeking.. I got filled with the holy spirit in a church of God in Florida, never expected that, I was never taught any of this stuff as a catholic kid.. .. I later dedicated my daughter in an Assembly of God church.. been all over creation with churches, baptist, charismatic, you name it, no JW's though sorry.... The Lord told me though, way back, He, the holy spirit kept saying to me day after day after day.. keep the sabbath.. keep the sabbath.. finally.. I did make a conscious effort. start keeping the sabbath. I knew this, had attended a messianic congregation in VA for about a year .. but then we moved and slacked off.. but him repeating it.. that was great.. Other things. The end of pork has also been a blessing. I think I was actually allergic to that all those years. You know, that is pretty vile stuff if you haven't eaten it in a while.. I am hardly not perfect in traditional things, I do what I am able. I do love to read and study things about God, traditions, history etc.. My favorite thing really.

I do feel we have been doubly blessed a result of remembering the (seventh day) sabbath epecially.

I am quite goyim in the eyes of jews however have no doubt. po polsku.

Where have all those good people on this thread gone? If they are reading this please come back, you were all so valued. Oh, I forgot to say, if you have to ask you probably aren't Jewish!

I think it's hilarious when Orthodox Jews claim that other Jews aren't "Jewish" enough. DNA isn't even a valid proof of descendancy, according to Orthodoxy? WOW!

Originally Posted by David Ben Yosef

I think it's hilarious when Orthodox Jews claim that other Jews aren't "Jewish" enough. DNA isn't even a valid proof of descendancy, according to Orthodoxy? WOW!

I'm not sure, but I think the Jewish ancestry claim came during or just after the Christian era.

I'm missing your point on the origin of the claims. How is that significant, and what does it have, if anything, to do with DNA testing? Could you please expound, I'm not following you at all, Bro?