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Which one are you talking about (not that I think either does)? Dendochronolgy goes about about 10,000 years if I remember rightly, but you can check it against other dating methods that go back even further.
If you think the earth is 6000-10,000 years old, then there is plenty to debate about.
The 6000-10000 years age has to be taken by faith, which has nothing wrong about it. Regards to the 6000 years, the 10000 years age is as worse as the 10,000,000 years age.
I argue that 10,000,000 years age of the earth is still young. And it is scientifically as good as a 4.5 b.y. age.
The 6000-10000 years age has to be taken by faith, which has nothing wrong about it. Regards to the 6000 years, the 10000 years age is as worse as the 10,000,000 years age.
It's wrong if it disagrees with reality.
I argue that 10,000,000 years age of the earth is still young. And it is scientifically as good as a 4.5 b.y. age.
Why don't you start a thread in the main section explaining this, or take the op up on a debate.
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I'll be more enthusiastic about encouraging thinking outside the box when there's evidence of any thinking going on inside it.
I’m new to this forum but not to this topic. To your first point, Jesus said “I am the way, the truth and the light. NO MAN comes on to the father but by me.” That means you, too. Only through the blood of Jesus can man be saved, NOT by any good works. The Bible is the word of God and the means by which He communicates with us; through His word and through the Holy Spirit which lives within those who have accepted Christ as their personal savior. It is the Holy Spirit that opens out eyes, opens the communication with the Creator, and gives us the understanding that we need to grow.
So, then, the first question would be, do you accept that the Bible is the word of God. If it is, then one must accept that the things within it are accurate. Surely God would not have reason to deceive those who follow Him. If you are among those who believe that the Bible is a fallible interpretation of man, NOT divinely inspired and not a communication from God, then you must insist that it’s all lies. Since Jesus attested to its validity, then Jesus must be a myth and the MILLIONS of lives that have been changed through salvation must all be delusional. The mention of the first three chapters of Genesis over 200 times in the New Testament must therefore invalidate it and it must all be a lie. Either that or it’s all true, and you simply have not learned that truth yet.
Building upon that, we look to your main question, as to the age of the earth. In Genesis we read that God created the world intact; that is, suitable for life. On day three, God created “grass, and herb yielding seed after his kind, and the tree yielding fruit, whose seed was in itself, after his kind.” The tree was already bearing fruit and mature. On day four, “God said, Let there be lights in the firmament of the heaven to divide the day from the night; and let them be for signs, and for seasons, and for days, and years: and let them be for lights in the firmament of the heaven to give light upon the earth: and it was so. And God made two great lights; the greater light to rule the day, and the lesser light to rule the night: he made the stars also. And God set them in the firmament of the heaven to give light upon the earth, and to rule over the day and over the night, and to divide the light from the darkness.” So then on day four, the sun, the moon and the stars were formed. Not only were they formed, their light shone on the earth. Interestingly, some of these stars were thousands of light years away, yet on day four, their light was already on the earth. How could this be possible?
The answer is easy. It isn’t possible. Not a word of it is possible. It violates every tenant of natural law. It’s a complete absurdity. Even the sequence was wrong. A tree bearing fruit before the formation of the sun? Light from stars a thousand light years away falling upon the earth instantly? The entire universe being spoken into existence and suddenly appearing (Big Bang, anyone)? It is simply not possible.
It is an act of stupidity to look for a quarter lost in a darkened street under the glow of a street corner because the light is better. It is foolishness to seek answers where they may not be found. It s a fallacy of logic to assume a supernatural event had natural causation. It is madness to seek physical proof of a supernatural God in a physical world that He created. It is sophomoric to presume that the same God who created the universe would be bound by its laws. The creation as defined in Genesis is absolutely impossible. So are the more than 150 other miracles chronicled in the Bible. If these things were not impossible they would not be miracles, and they would not attest to God’s sovereignty over the universe. Interestingly, 25% of all Americans claim to have experienced or witnessed miracles. It seems that impossible things are still happening. However, God will NOT reveal Himself to people who do not seek Him. Faith is still the way to heaven, and absolute proof removes the need for faith. So we have to look at that which we know to be impossible; that God created the universe intact and mature- ready to support life as it exists; and we have to accept that impossibility through faith.
Science continues to offer alternative theories for origination, none of which are scientifically possible. Scientists use radiometric dating and tout it as prove of age, as if God was somehow unable to create radioactive carbon. They point to the Grand Canyon as an example of billions of years of erosion, as if God couldn’t make another like it in an instant. Science blindly points to similarities in genetics between animals that look similar and proclaim a common ancestry, even though they know that since physical characteristics are encoded in genetics, animals that look similar would HAVE TO have similar genetics. Atheists use genetic commonalities as evidence of common ancestry without admitting the obvious common Creator.
So on one hand; we have the Bible which chronicles the lives and generations of man from Adam until the birth of Christ. We can use that time line to calculate the relative age of the earth. On the other hand; we have observations of science that show an appearance of a great age if one simply ignores the pesky truth that it relies on theories of origination that are completely impossible. In the middle we have the person who WANTS to believe, but who is told by people who are supposedly better educated that his Bible is foolishness and science holds the truth. Ultimately, one comes to the truth only through faith. The only truth in the universe is the Father. Heaven and earth will pass away, but God’s truth is eternal. We’re living on a fabricated planet that has an expiration date. So do we. In the end, I’ll take the word of God over the discredited claims of “science” any day. Despite what people might try to convince you, science does NOT hold the answers. The truth lies not in the rock that mankind walks on, but in the God that he walks with.
How easy would it be to show that the earth is older than 6-10 million years?
You have only ONE way to do it: radiometric dating. You can never say it is easy to show anything if you can only use ONE method to investigate it.
I wonder what kind of geologist you are? Did you get an actual degree at an accredited university?
Frankly, I dont find it very believable that you did.
Its like if I said I was a basketball expert, then was on a post game show. They'd have me figured for a fake in no time. Proof is not in the claim, but in the performance.
Your statement that radiometric dating is the only (ONE) way to date the earth is something that anyone who took an undergrad historical geology course would know isnt so. Anyone interested enough to actually BE a "geologist" would know better than to say that.
So what is the deal here? Why dont you know something that simple and basic, if you are a geologist? Its like saying you are a doctor but never heard of a spleen.
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