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View Poll Results: How is a person saved?
When they're sprinkled on the head as a baby 5 0.68%
Through faith alone 504 68.95%
Through works 10 1.37%
Through faith and works 189 25.85%
Not sure 23 3.15%
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Old 20th June 2004, 04:51 AM
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I put faith only, but faith without works is dead. But, we usually are not called to work until after our faith is in place, so... Faith starts teh whol works ball rolling.
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Old 20th June 2004, 02:52 PM
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I thought through faith and works, but I think I am mistaken. We are saved through faith alone. All of the others point to a more blessed union with Christ. What do you think?
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Old 20th June 2004, 03:28 PM
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Baptism, faith, and works...unfortunately, that option isn't there
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For You are the Lord Most High, of great compassion, long-suffering, and very merciful, and You relent at human suffering. O Lord, according to Your great goodness You have promised repentance and forgiveness to those who have sinned against You, and in the multitude of Your mercies You have appointed repentance for sinners so that they may be saved.

-Prayer of Manasseh verse 7 (NRSV)
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Old 20th June 2004, 04:10 PM
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I did not really want to choose any of these options.

We are not saved by any merit of our own works, but simply by the undeserved grace of God through the sacrifice of Jesus on the cross.

But in practice, they cannot be separated. If you say "faith alone, but then that faith will produce works" - what of the 'faith' of demons? They believe everything I do - and indeed could be said to have more 'faith', in that their knowlege is more certain. But despite this 'faith' they remain in a state of rebellion, and their faith causes them to tremble. An active turning from rebellion to obedience to God, i.e. works, is necessary. But it is not by any merit of this action that we are saved, only by the grace of God.
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And he shall have it, and his seed after him, even the covenant of an everlasting priesthood;
because he was zealous for his God,
and made an atonement for the children of Israel."
Num 25:12-13 [KJV]
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Old 20th June 2004, 05:34 PM
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Sinners asking Bro peter "How to be saved" in Acts 2:37

Acts 2:38 Bro peter told them how to be saved.


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[bible]acts 2:37-38[/bible] I like this Bible quoter, great feature.

But what about [bible]matthew 28:18-19[/bible]
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Old 20th June 2004, 07:05 PM
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Exactly - only the grace of God saves us.
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Old 21st June 2004, 02:30 AM
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My answer was not really there. I picked "through faith and works", but that's not completely true. I believe that it is faith in Jesus Christ which saves us, but I believe that good works WILL stem from this faith if it is true and sincere. God bless!
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Old 21st June 2004, 10:02 AM
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I'm a Universalist, I believe all believe are "saved" regardless of faith or works.
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Old 21st June 2004, 10:32 AM
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I beleive by the grace of God we are shown the truth and convicted in our hearts knowing the truth and beleiving in it and being faithful to it.
Laying off the shackles of old, and free to serve our true master.
Serving our true Master by His righteousness and our works being righteous for they are done by His righteousness not our own, living to serve Him through His love not selfishly living to serve our own.

If our works are done to make us righteous by our righteousness, then it's not of God but ours, if our faith comes from what we obtained by our righteousness to our credit, then it's not of God for we take the credit as if our selves have accomplished it.
Gods grace has saved us, by His righteousness, we have not obtained it by our own righteousness but the righteousness of Him, living faithfully by it, beleiving wholeheartedly in it, and doing His righteous works by the righteousness of Him.
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