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15th March 2008, 02:13 PM
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Well, all we need do is look at some peoples' posts to know we really need to spend MUCH more time teaching basic algebra and math to kids! Originally Posted by dad That would only apply in the present universe, one would assume that the SN originated in the former state, or at least the changing universe process.
OK. So, W is the will of God. X is one star, and Y is another. And FL is the former light speed.
X x FL divided by W = W FL
Y x FL divided by W = W FL
W FL x W = W FL
If W = Y FL, and W = X FL, and X does not = Y then either speed is W. (even if different) 
Once they can handle simple 7th grade algebra and then maybe logic we can move onto headier topics like mythology. |
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Reps: 9,223,372,036,854,775,808 (power: 9,223,372,036,856,908) | | Originally Posted by thaumaturgy The worst teachers in the world, bar none, are those who dogmatically refuse to learn from the students.
I was waiting for this to come up --- let me refresh your memory here: Originally Posted by peter22 I was almost laughed out of the room. All of my 20 or so students told me that creationism and intelligent design theory was utter junk.
And I'll throw this one in, just for good measure: Originally Posted by Athrond Yay students
Welcome back, Kotter.
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Hahaha, you're funny.
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15th March 2008, 02:29 PM
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Reps: 49,506,284,250,467,360 (power: 49,506,284,250,480) | | Originally Posted by AV1611VET I was waiting for this to come up --- let me refresh your memory here:
And I'll throw this one in, just for good measure:
Welcome back, Kotter.
and this is supposed to say ...what?
Frankly I couldn't care less what Peter's students say. I was commenting on your potential ability to "teach" creationism (or anything for that matter). |
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Am I not in a qualified position to discuss the teaching of Creationism in class?
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Frankly I couldn't care less what Peter's students say. I was commenting on your potential ability to "teach" creationism (or anything for that matter).
If I was teaching born-again fundamentalists, [something like] this would be included in my opening lecture to my class: - In this classroom, we're going to study Genesis 1 creation. And by Genesis 1 creation, I don't mean Genesis 2, 3, or 4. I don't mean Habakkuk 1. I mean Genesis 1. G-E-N-E-S-I-S O-N-E.
- ...later on...
- Never, ever, ever stray from Genesis 1 when debating the Creation with anyone. There are a very few exceptions, like when proving from Scripture that the Creation was "perfect." Which I'll detail later in the course of this study.
- People will try and bring up the Fall, the Flood, a talking "snake" (which I'll show later was neither a snake, nor "talked"), another account in Genesis 2, etc. DON'T GO THERE WITH THEM. And incidentally, every once in awhile, I'll mention the Flood, or the serpent, diseases, or something outside of Genesis One; and when I do, I'll be expecting to be called on it.
- Now, turn to Chapter One of your syllabus, called The Apple Challenge, and let's have fun.
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Reps: 2,824 (power: 13) | | Originally Posted by AV1611VET I'd love to teach a class of scientists and atheists Genesis 1 Creationism.
You dont think you'd be laughed out of the class? If Creationists scientific arguments arent taken seriously, what makes you think reading some scripture will be?
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Reps: 9,223,372,036,854,775,808 (power: 9,223,372,036,856,908) | | Originally Posted by lemmings Am I not in a qualified position to discuss the teaching of Creationism in class?
How did we go from this: Originally Posted by peter22 I was almost laughed out of the room. All of my 20 or so students told me that creationism and intelligent design theory was utter junk.
--- to this, all of a sudden --- Originally Posted by lemmings Am I not in a qualified position to discuss the teaching of Creationism in class?
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Reps: 9,223,372,036,854,775,808 (power: 9,223,372,036,856,908) | | Originally Posted by Edx You dont think you'd be laughed out of the class? If Creationists scientific arguments arent taken seriously, what makes you think reading some scripture will be?
Depends on the class. Is it high school, or college? I'm sure they're either paying good money to learn this, or their parents may have to be called in for a session or two, ya think?
Either way, education could use more student-teacher respect, could it not?
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Reps: 120,153,750,948,296,832 (power: 120,153,750,948,316) | | Originally Posted by AV1611VET If I was teaching born-again fundamentalists, [something like] this would be included in my opening lecture to my class: - In this classroom, we're going to study Genesis 1 creation. And by Genesis 1 creation, I don't mean Genesis 2, 3, or 4. I don't mean Habakkuk 1. I mean Genesis 1. G-E-N-E-S-I-S O-N-E.
- ...later on...
- Never, ever, ever stray from Genesis 1 when debating the Creation with anyone. There are a very few exceptions, like when proving from Scripture that the Creation was "perfect." Which I'll detail later in the course of this study.
- People will try and bring up the Fall, the Flood, a talking "snake" (which I'll show later was neither a snake, nor "talked"), another account in Genesis 2, etc. DON'T GO THERE WITH THEM. And incidentally, every once in awhile, I'll mention the Flood, or the serpent, diseases, or something outside of Genesis One; and when I do, I'll be expecting to be called on it.
- Now, turn to Chapter One of your syllabus, called The Apple Challenge, and let's have fun.
So what's wrong with Genesis Two?
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