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9th March 2008, 07:40 PM
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It's Muslim immigrants. I find the irony to be delicious. Any of our local creo's care to comment? http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/e...on/7028639.stm Prof Reiss says the rise of creationism is partly down to the large increase in Muslim pupils in UK schools.
He said: "The number of Muslim students has grown considerably in the last 10 to 20 years and a higher proportion of Muslim families do not accept evolutionary theory compared with Christian families.
That's one reason why it's more of an issue in schools."
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10th March 2008, 03:56 AM
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Good angle. I like it.
Ps. I notice no creationists have chimed in yet. We're waiting for your thoughts.
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10th March 2008, 04:11 AM
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I have seen AV counter some of elwil's posts, but for the most part, Islamic Creationists and Christian Creationists tend to ignore each other.
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10th March 2008, 04:17 AM
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10th March 2008, 08:57 AM
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10th March 2008, 11:22 AM
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Reps: 2,164,740,823,093,743 (power: 2,164,740,823,104) | | Originally Posted by TheManeki Most of the time creationists can't even agree with each other on any specifics beyond "Goddidit," so how can you expect them to agree with people who have a totally different creation myth?
I just spat my coffee out laughing at your post...
But it's - oh so true. I was hoping that creationism wouldn't hit the UK in any form. I like it's secular nature - I want it to stay that way.
Although it's not really that secular.........
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