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Old 9th March 2008, 09:52 PM
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You want evolution to show you Big huge steps like miracles in the bible or something... Evolution deals with tiny tiny steps so small and elegant. Its like watching grass grow.
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Originally Posted by guzman View Post
well everyone's waiting -- prove me wrong.
You're wrong. Every structure has been added through random mutation and natural selection. I'm using creationist methods of showing information here.
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Originally Posted by guzman View Post
And to all you scientists out there: I am indeed your Daddy!!!!!
I'm going to ignore you now, Daddy.
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Some people are locked in, set in their ways, unwilling to budge. They will defend their position at all cost. There are lines they will not cross. And as such, they have given up honest inquiry.

Await that.
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Originally Posted by Grizzly View Post
Originally Posted by guzman
no it's not.
yes it is.
He's beHIIIIND YOU!



(apologies to Americans who probably won't understand this)
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Originally Posted by BrainHertz View Post
He's beHIIIIND YOU!



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I'm sure if you would explain it, it would help this thread to be more exciting then it could ever become otherwise.

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Originally Posted by guzman View Post
well why don't you show me the mutations.....(for example, the green algae thing does not involve a mutation at all, from what I remember.)....and also, most of those do not involve structures....for example, "the ability to digest" is not a structure....neither is the "ability of e. coli to hydolizye galactosylarabinose....neither is the "adaptation of yeast"...but show me the papers on the others.
Here, knock yourself out...

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  2. Boraas, M. E. 1983. Predator induced evolution in chemostat culture. EOS 64: 1102.
  3. Boraas, M. E., D. B. Seale, and J. E. Boxhorn. 1998. Phagotrophy by a flagellate selects for colonial prey: A possible origin of multicellularity. Evolutionary Ecology 12: 153-164.
  4. Francis, J. E. and P. E. Hansche. 1972. Directed evolution of metabolic pathways in microbial populations. I. Modification of the acid phosphatase pH optimum in S. cerevisiae. Genetics 70: 59-73.
  5. Francis, J. E. and P. E. Hansche. 1973. Directed evolution of metabolic pathways in microbial populations. II. A repeatable adaptation in Saccharomyces cerevisiae. Genetics 74: 259-265.
  6. Hall, B. G. 1981. Changes in the substrate specificities of an enzyme during directed evolution of new functions. Biochemistry 20: 4042-4049.
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  13. Thomas. n.d. (see above).
  14. Thwaites, W. M. 1985. New proteins without God's help. Creation/Evolution 5(2): 1-3.
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Trust me, this is not because we are scared of Guz's awesome space-brain.

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Originally Posted by BrainHertz View Post
He's beHIIIIND YOU!

(apologies to Americans who probably won't understand this)
OH NO HE ISN'T!
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Old 9th March 2008, 11:33 PM
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Originally Posted by Grizzly View Post
It's right there in the link.

But from what others are saying, you won't believe it anyway.

What I wonder is this. If someone doesn't believe in evolution, how can they explain that we carry the genetic code for a tail?
the so called tail in human babys has a purpose in that stage of its life ,it is an attchment for holding muscles together, to say its a remnant tail is nothing but forced interpretation, weak argument
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