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I have shown many times that it's not what we say you guys don't like --- it's what we are you don't like.
No, you are quite wrong. I for one don't like it when you say:
1. You hold science to a higher standard (yet we are the ones who know science and who work as scientists)
2. "Evidence can take a hike"
3. If it disagrees with the KJV it's wrong.
Now, if what you "are" is incapable of not pontificating on things you don't know, then I guess I'd say I don't like what you are.
But considering most of my friends are Christians and I have a good friend who is a born-again Creationist, I'd have to say you are, as usual, talking about things you don't know to people who do know.
If you go back over my posts, you'll see that 99% of the time, I agree with you guys; but that 1% makes me (us) a target of ridicule.
Yes, make sure everyone looks at the ones where you said :
Originally Posted by AV1611VET
Evidence to the contrary --- potential evidence to the contrary --- whatever --- I just know the Bible says it - that settles it.
I don't twist anything --- I'm a die-hard literalist --- that's why even TE's disagree with me. In fact, that's probably the Number Two reason I'm not liked here:
What I am.
Of course, you are percecuted here because you are a Christian.
Originally Posted by AV1611VET
I refuse to twist Scripture.
LOL! You twist it when ever you feel like it.
Originally Posted by AV1611VET
A born-again Christian.
I have shown many times that it's not what we say you guys don't like --- it's what we are you don't like.
Help! Help! I'm being percecuted for being a Born-Again Christian!!!
Originally Posted by AV1611VET
If you go back over my posts, you'll see that 99% of the time, I agree with you guys; but that 1% makes me (us) a target of ridicule.
Another example of how 99% of statistics are made up on the spot. Tell us then why you are always arguing with us, and claiming that we should be humiliated for teaching evolution?
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"We have designed our civilization based on science and technology and at the same time arranged things so that almost no one understands anything at all about science and technology. This is a clear prescription for disaster."
- Carl Sagan (Demon Haunted World)
If that's the way you want to look at it, go right ahead; but remember, I eat atheists and agnostics for breakfast with Genesis; so if you want to envision it as me eating atheists and agnostics for breakfast with Dr Seuss instead - be my guest.
yeah.... um ok.
And I wrote Genesis and you cant disprove that. As shown here. And I say you are wrong and you only eat yourself for breakfast. Yum, I bet it tastes like Sin.
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I don't twist anything --- I'm a die-hard literalist --- that's why even TE's disagree with me. In fact, that's probably the Number Two reason I'm not liked here:
What I am.
I refuse to twist Scripture.
yes you do, you twist science and reason oh and its impossible to be a 100% literalist, you just rationalize away anything the bible is wrong on.
1. you don't even know
2. you have by refusing to admit that people can be wrong 2000 years ago
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All gaily dressed, soon you'll go To the provincial show, To be admired by many a beau In the city of Toronto.
from "Ode on the Mammoth Cheese" by James McIntyre
I have shown many times that it's not what we say you guys don't like --- it's what we are you don't like.|
honestly i'm sick of your whining about this, we don't dislike christians so you can give it a rest. we think what you are argue is laughable at best
If you go back over my posts, you'll see that 99% of the time, I agree with you guys; but that 1% makes me (us) a target of ridicule.
you "agree" with an idea that is sort of like what science says, but is very distorted by your lack of education on science. you fail to see how illogical your ideas are and absurd they are.
even if you agree that if theres no evidence for miracles, believing they still happened despite this makes no logical sense to most people
you get ridicule because you hold an impossible and indefensible view point that no one else holds, what do you expect?
__________________ We have seen thee, Queen of Cheese, Lying quietly at your ease, Gently fanned by evening breeze; Thy fair form no flies dare seize.
All gaily dressed, soon you'll go To the provincial show, To be admired by many a beau In the city of Toronto.
from "Ode on the Mammoth Cheese" by James McIntyre
honestly i'm sick of your whining about this, we don't dislike christians so you can give it a rest. we think what you are argue is laughable at best
Then don't ask --- that was in response to a direct question.
Originally Posted by ReverendDG
you "agree" with an idea that is sort of like what science says, but is very distorted by your lack of education on science. you fail to see how illogical your ideas are and absurd they are.
even if you agree that if theres no evidence for miracles, believing they still happened despite this makes no logical sense to most people
you get ridicule because you hold an impossible and indefensible view point that no one else holds, what do you expect?
I don't twist anything --- I'm a die-hard literalist --- that's why even TE's disagree with me. In fact, that's probably the Number Two reason I'm not liked here:
What I am.
I refuse to twist Scripture.
It isn't at all apparent to me that anybody here doesn't like you. I certainly have no dislike for you at all. However, many people (myself included) do disagree with you. Please don't confuse the two.
So would the YECs -- they're not all Omphalos as you are.
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Don't talk like one of them. You're not! Even if you'd like to be.
To them, you're just a freak, like me! They need you right now, but when they don't, they'll cast you out, like a leper! You see, their morals, their code, it's a bad joke. Dropped at the first sign of trouble. They're only as good as the world allows them to be. I'll show you. When the chips are down, these... these civilized people, they'll eat each other.
See, I'm not a monster. I'm just ahead of the curve.
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If that's the way you want to look at it, go right ahead; but remember, I eat atheists and agnostics for breakfast with Genesis; so if you want to envision it as me eating atheists and agnostics for breakfast with Dr Seuss instead - be my guest.
Bold emphasis on the metaphor is mine.
Originally Posted by AV1611VET
I don't twist anything --- I'm a die-hard literalist
Then as a die-hard literalist, you should choose your own words more wisely, else someone might accuse you of cannibalism.
Don't kid yourself, AVVET, you're no literalist, you're meteroric with your metaphors, and so is Genesis (that's where you probably learned the habit...)