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8th June 2004, 03:12 PM
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Hey fellas,
I have two queries that are screwing me up:
1. is premarital sex ok?
2. is masturbation ok?
thanks for you advice |
8th June 2004, 03:14 PM
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For now, moving this to Philosophy and Morality.
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8th June 2004, 03:15 PM
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8th June 2004, 04:32 PM
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Reps: 2,890,608,320 (power: 0) | | Originally Posted by PeterJack Hey fellas,
I have two queries that are screwing me up:
1. is premarital sex ok?
2. is masturbation ok?
thanks for you advice
I suggest that you read and study Heb. 13:4, 1 Cor. 6:18;7:1-9, and Matt. 5:27-28 for guidance from God's word. |
8th June 2004, 04:36 PM
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I have two queries that are screwing me up:
1. is premarital sex ok?
2. is masturbation ok?
thanks for you advice
I'm not a Christian, but...
1. Absolutely, but be careful, as there are certain risks to it -- there are a good number of significant health benefits to frequent sex, too, though  Also, remember that sex is a highly emotional act, and be careful not to emotionally damage the people you engage in sexual intercourse with. Otherwise, have sex all you like -- marriage is a social construct and has nothing to do with whether or not sex is "ok".
2. Absolutely. It's also completely harmless and possibly even healthful. |
8th June 2004, 05:55 PM
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Reps: 440,945,404,461,670,976 (power: 440,945,404,461,699) | | Originally Posted by PeterJack 1. is premarital sex ok?
Yes, as long as you are seeking a meaningful longterm relationship with someone good for you. If this is just casual sex, I'd say that this is too shallow and short-sighted.
Yes. Why wouldn't it be?
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8th June 2004, 06:13 PM
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1. Is it ok to have premarital sex?
NO! That is why marrige was made. Let me define marrige for you. Marrige is when a man and woman(NOT MAN AND MAN, OR WOMAN AND WOMAN) come together in a holy vow and promise to stay together for the REST OF THEIR LIVES. This means that you should save yourself for the one that you will be spending the rest of your life with. Not sleeping with every girl you've ever had a relationship with.
2. Is masturbation wrong?
Yes it is. You are lusting after somebody when you masturbate right? Well, Lusting after them, and thinking impure thoughts is just like actually doing what you are thinking with this person. I would agree on the verses thatDRA has given to you. And just consult the bible. You dont need other opinions when you look to the bible. The bible will answer more or less every question that you have regarding this subject. |
8th June 2004, 06:26 PM
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Reps: 411 (power: 0) | | Originally Posted by ernest_theweedwhackerguy Peter Jack, if your seeking christian to christian help, definately, definately dont listen to this guy. He has absolutely NO CLUE WHAT HE IS TALKING ABOUT!
1. Is it ok to have premarital sex?
NO! That is why marrige was made. Let me define marrige for you. Marrige is when a man and woman(NOT MAN AND MAN, OR WOMAN AND WOMAN) come together in a holy vow and promise to stay together for the REST OF THEIR LIVES. This means that you should save yourself for the one that you will be spending the rest of your life with. Not sleeping with every girl you've ever had a relationship with.
2. Is masturbation wrong?
Yes it is. You are lusting after somebody when you masturbate right? Well, Lusting after them, and thinking impure thoughts is just like actually doing what you are thinking with this person. I would agree on the verses thatDRA has given to you. And just consult the bible. You dont need other opinions when you look to the bible. The bible will answer more or less every question that you have regarding this subject.
Ah, but I don't believe the Bible, so my advice is quite correct from a logical standpoint. Granted, from a faith-based standpoint it may not be, but then, literally any nonsense can be true if you base your worldview on faith.
EDIT: Note that I'm not saying faith is bad. There are some subjects on which one must either have faith or reject them entirely. However, it is bad to base objective observations on faith. |
8th June 2004, 06:32 PM
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. I affirm the Nicene Creed.
For I am persuaded, that neither death, nor life, nor angels, nor principalities, nor powers, nor things present, nor things to come, Nor height, nor depth, nor any other creature, shall be able to separate us from the love of God, which is in Christ Jesus our Lord. -- Romans 8:38-39 |
8th June 2004, 06:43 PM
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Reps: 1,895 (power: 10) | | Originally Posted by PeterJack Hey fellas,
I have two queries that are screwing me up:
1. is premarital sex ok?
2. is masturbation ok?
thanks for you advice
I am going to chime in with my 2 cents.
1. I think for premarital sex, you must be emotionally ready. Especially with younger people who aren't quite sure about the consequences of sex. Deciding if premarital sex is okay is something you must figure out on your own. Investigate your own beliefs and feelings on the subject.
2. Masturbation is totally and and completely normal. It is healthy to explore yourself sexually. Humans start doing it when they are babies. It is a completely safe way to experiment with sexuality if you are worried about premarital sex, for instance.
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