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6th March 2008, 09:40 PM
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Atheistic, Agnostic, deistic, pantheistic and theistic is the philosophical spin you want to put in. |
6th March 2008, 09:48 PM
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Reps: 9,504 (power: 14) | | The matter is who and how many influence evolution, or how it is done. Originally Posted by Vene  I'm going to continue calling it evolution without adding a religious qualifier. I don't see theistic or atheistic chemistry after all. |
6th March 2008, 10:58 PM
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6th March 2008, 11:46 PM
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Reps: 2,164,740,823,093,743 (power: 2,164,740,823,104) | | Originally Posted by TheKingOfImmortality Hey guys 
I was wondering if any would agree to back up this idea I had for this web site. I notice in our views of the Orign of Life we have Theaistic Evolution or Athestic Evolution. One belives In Evolution with no supper natural forces, deity, Gods, God, Godhead, Goddess, ect. Why the others belives that Evolution was guided by the hand of a Deity, Gods, God, Godhead, Goddess, ect. But is there such a thing as Agnostic Evolution? As is in maby some one who belives in evolution but admits he dose not know if there is a God Or belives in evolution but also admit he dose not know how we got here?
So I was wondering if maby we should add Agnostic evolution for those who belive in Evolution but are not 100% sure if there is a God or not.
What do you think?
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I really don't like terms like agnostic evolutionist, theistic evolutionist, etc. Although they serve a purpose they tend to imply differences where few exist.
I'm a christian, I'm a scientist and I know that evolution is true. Not sure that it really needs a label.
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7th March 2008, 02:15 PM
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Reps: 84,929,301,057,186,064 (power: 84,929,301,057,204) | | Originally Posted by Buddhist4Jesus I believe theistic evolution, but who can be sure?
Why not theistic gravitation where God nudges comets and meteors in Earth crossing orbits? Why not theistic germ disease where God moves bacteria where they are most likely to cause infection? Why not theistic chemistry where reactants are moved together by God's hand?
Why does evolution have a theistic version but not other theories?
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So have the same sects are not saying that belief in gravitation or germ disease are incompatible with Christianity. |
8th March 2008, 10:25 AM
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I assume you meant Richard Dawkins?
Citation please?
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Reps: 9,274,249 (power: 9,291) | | Originally Posted by resoto Mostly because some sect of the same religion (and Richie Dorkings) are saying that if you believe in evolution you are a Atheist.
I have read and seen quite a lot of what Richard Dawkins has produced. This is not his position.
Creationists on the other hand... So have the same sects are not saying that belief in gravitation or germ disease are incompatible with Christianity.
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