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Smoke is not necessarily hot. It originates from a hot source, but cools rapidly. Furthermore, one of the properties of smoke is that it contains solid particles (soot). A gaseous mass does not contain solid particles.
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'What luck for rulers, that men do not think.'
-Ascribed to Adolf Hitler-
`Contrariwise,' continued Tweedledee, `if it was so, it might be; and if it were so, it would be; but as it isn't, it ain't. That's logic.'
-Through the Looking Glas by Lewis Caroll-
Statistics are like a bikini. What they reveal is suggestive, but what they conceal is vital.
To add to that. Now if Mohammed would have told us that the world began in plasma I might have been impressed. "Smoke" on the other hand is just plain wrong.
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Tom
'What luck for rulers, that men do not think.'
-Ascribed to Adolf Hitler-
`Contrariwise,' continued Tweedledee, `if it was so, it might be; and if it were so, it would be; but as it isn't, it ain't. That's logic.'
-Through the Looking Glas by Lewis Caroll-
Statistics are like a bikini. What they reveal is suggestive, but what they conceal is vital.
Scientists have only very recently confirmed that the universe did indeed originate from a gaseous mass composed of HYDROGEN AND HELIUM, a big mass of hot gasses. The Koran is more accurate in describing the gasses as "smoke" rather than the word "mist" used frequently by scientists as the gasses were hot.
Actually, hydrogen and helium atoms did not begin to form until approximately 380,000 years after the Big Bang. Before that, there were indeed hydrogen and helium nuclei, but even they did not exist until 3 minutes after the Big Bang. Before that, it was more of a plasma than a gas, let alone a smoke. The universe did not originate in hydrogen and helium.
Actually, hydrogen and helium atoms did not begin to form until approximately 380,000 years after the Big Bang. Before that, there were indeed hydrogen and helium nuclei, but even they did not exist until 3 minutes after the Big Bang. Before that, it was more of a plasma than a gas, let alone a smoke. The universe did not originate in hydrogen and helium.
Smoke is not necessarily hot. It originates from a hot source, but cools rapidly. Furthermore, one of the properties of smoke is that it contains solid particles (soot). A gaseous mass does not contain solid particles.
Smoke is the collection of airborne solid and liquid particulates and gases[1] emitted when a material undergoes combustion or pyrolysis, together with the quantity of air that is entrained or otherwise mixed into the mass
Smoke is the collection of airborne solid and liquid particulates and gases[1] emitted when a material undergoes combustion or pyrolysis, together with the quantity of air that is entrained or otherwise mixed into the mass
That should answer your questions. The gasses at the start of the big bang did not contain particles and neither did they result from combustion or pyrolysis. The definition states what I stated, but in a more formal way. The quran is extremely inaccurate when it calls the gaseous mass of hydrogen and helium smoke. It is a very inaccurate description of it.
I'd post that picture again, but just saying it will do the trick.
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Tom
'What luck for rulers, that men do not think.'
-Ascribed to Adolf Hitler-
`Contrariwise,' continued Tweedledee, `if it was so, it might be; and if it were so, it would be; but as it isn't, it ain't. That's logic.'
-Through the Looking Glas by Lewis Caroll-
Statistics are like a bikini. What they reveal is suggestive, but what they conceal is vital.
That should answer your questions. The gasses at the start of the big bang did not contain particles and neither did they result from combustion or pyrolysis. The definition states what I stated, but in a more formal way. The quran is extremely inaccurate when it calls the gaseous mass of hydrogen and helium smoke. It is a very inaccurate description of it.
Adivi declare this condition
Before that, it was more of a plasma than a gas, let alone a smoke. The universe did not originate in hydrogen and helium.
I didn't. In one of my previous posts, directly before Adivi made his point about plasma, I already stated that if Mohammed had mentioned plasma instead of gas, I would have been really impressed.
He didn't. Smoke is bad description of either plasma or the gasses that formed after plasma. Basically, the description given in the quran sucks as a description of the origin of the universe. Real question is, why haven't you responded to that?
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Tom
'What luck for rulers, that men do not think.'
-Ascribed to Adolf Hitler-
`Contrariwise,' continued Tweedledee, `if it was so, it might be; and if it were so, it would be; but as it isn't, it ain't. That's logic.'
-Through the Looking Glas by Lewis Caroll-
Statistics are like a bikini. What they reveal is suggestive, but what they conceal is vital.
I know this was not directed to me but I want to help you in English so you can become a good speaker! English is an essential language now days, especially if you are in the middle east.
You should have said "So why did you ignore that" and not ignored. The ED is incorrect.
LOL ok I am bored, so sorry for wasting your time on such a silly thing!
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