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3rd March 2008, 04:19 AM
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Reps: 118,712,461,112,472,176 (power: 118,712,461,112,500) | | Originally Posted by Avatar  I know He would have got a DUI if He was behind the wheel.
I see you have a Catholic icon, so I assume you somehow are not trying to be irreverent to God. I can't get your drift, however.
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If the flood happened when laws were different than this present state we know, all bets are off for present state science being able to extrapolate backwards in any meaningful or accurate way. |
3rd March 2008, 04:44 AM
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Reps: 118,712,461,112,472,176 (power: 118,712,461,112,500) | | Originally Posted by Patashu It's not an assumption, it's a conclusion; magnetic field reversals are the best known explanation for them.
Best as per whose opinion??? Conclusions are a dime a dozen, I have some of my own. What about magnetic reversals?? All that means is that the charge went another direction in the past, but, so what?? If your whole inner earth dynamo of molten ancient iron story is wrong, then mere directional changes in the magnetic field of earth in the past are a piece of cake to explain. If you disagree, do you have a better explanation? If you don't, why are you disagreeing?
Disagree with what? That there were directional flow changes? No, if the evidence shows there was, why would I disagree? I simply note that the actual evidenced observations show a decreasing field.
I lean toward the explanation that something else caused the magnetic field in the past, and it never was what is now claimed. Whatever it was, may have ceased to function as it used to in the different state past, and the decrease in the field may be a result.
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3rd March 2008, 10:08 AM
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3rd March 2008, 10:26 AM
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Reps: 49,506,284,250,467,360 (power: 49,506,284,250,480) | | Originally Posted by dad I see you have a Catholic icon, so I assume you somehow are not trying to be irreverent to God. I can't get your drift, however.
Dad, considering you are irreverent (and condescending) to most people's fields, why would you care?
I mean you call math that you can't even begin to handle "baby math", you call geology you don't understand "doo doo".
I don't get it? What is your malfunction?
Or do you think it shows reverence to God to talk about how Great God Is all while you treat others with scorn and derision?
What does "respect" mean to you? |
3rd March 2008, 10:37 AM
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Reps: 49,506,284,250,467,360 (power: 49,506,284,250,480) | | in the past, but, so what?? If your whole inner earth dynamo of molten ancient iron story is wrong, then mere directional changes in the magnetic field of earth in the past are a piece of cake to explain.
Oh, then, please explain it! |
3rd March 2008, 12:18 PM
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Reps: 1,017,882,919,370,317,952 (power: 0) | | Originally Posted by dad I see you have a Catholic icon, so I assume you somehow are not trying to be irreverent to God. I can't get your drift, however.
Seriously man, lighten up. |
3rd March 2008, 12:29 PM
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If the first measurement took place in 1829, and the graph looks linear not only for "this small section" but the entirety of the available data, how does one arrive at the conclusion of exponential decrease?
That sounds a lot like wishful thinking to me...
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3rd March 2008, 01:04 PM
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Reps: 49,506,284,250,467,360 (power: 49,506,284,250,480) | | Originally Posted by Avatar Seriously man, lighten up.
Dad is often quite flippant when heaping condescension on others, but I learned he is pretty thin skinned when people say anything that he find "blasphemous" or disrespectful to God.
I think he needs a refresher on the whole "Golden Rule" thingy in Luke 6:31. |
3rd March 2008, 01:10 PM
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Reps: 49,506,284,250,467,360 (power: 49,506,284,250,480) | | Originally Posted by jwu If the first measurement took place in 1829, and the graph looks linear not only for "this small section" but the entirety of the available data, how does one arrive at the conclusion of exponential decrease?
That sounds a lot like wishful thinking to me...
The Graph dad posted is from some other website (the link only shows the graph, no detailed discussion), the quote is from here, apparently:
McDonald, K. L. and R. H. Gunst. "An analysis of the earth's magnetic field from 1835 to 1965," ESSA Technical Report IER 46-IES 1 ( July 1967) U.S. Government Printing Office, Washington, D.C., Table 3, p. 14.
Maybe if we had more info on the graph dad posted. |
3rd March 2008, 02:23 PM
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Reps: 50 (power: 0) | | Originally Posted by dad I see you have a Catholic icon, so I assume you somehow are not trying to be irreverent to God. I can't get your drift, however.
Think transubstantiation
ya know, bread....wine (maybe you use grape juice) | | |
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