We are Losing Power, Captain.

thaumaturgy · #11 2nd March 2008, 11:22 AM

Originally Posted by NOVA

Even the weakening currently under way may be a false alarm. The field often gets very weak, then bounces back, never having flipped. As Ron Merrill, a magnetic-field specialist at the University of Washington remarked when asked whether we're in for a reversal: "Ask me in 10,000 years, I'll give you a better answer." So hang on to your compass. For the foreseeable future, it should work as advertised (ibid)

Below is another, shorter term, paleomagnetic studyin which field intensity was calculated from the data:

(SOURCE)

So did the Flood really last 140,000 years?

thaumaturgy · #12 2nd March 2008, 11:35 AM

Dad has shown his inability to address even simple math and algebra over in the thread "The Changing Speed of Light", and since geophysics is a very mathematically intensive study, this will be an appropriate venue for geophysicists and mathematicians to step in and hopefully educate him.

Some of Dad's issues in math:

Simple Algebra (POST #78):

Originally Posted by dad

That would only apply in the present universe, one would assume that the SN originated in the former state, or at least the changing universe process.

OK. So, W is the will of God. X is one star, and Y is another. And FL is the former light speed.

X x FL divided by W = W FL
Y x FL divided by W = W FL
W FL x W = W FL
If W = Y FL, and W = X FL, and X does not = Y then either speed is W. (even if different)

Explaining his "Forever State" math in regards to Multiplication and Division (Post #546)

Understanding why someone "graphs" numbers (POST #565). (This is doubly ironic considering he relies on a graph in the O.P. here, but it will hopefully allow people to teach him something about 'graphing' and all its applications!)

He betrays his own reticence to answer simple math questions by condescendingly referring to it as "baby math"

Originally Posted by dad

I don't want to do the simple baby math for you. If I do that, people might ask me to do the hard ones.

And when shown that he is likely not even capable of this so-called "baby math" he runs away from even this:

Originally Posted by dad

I am not sure who thinks I claimed to be knowledgeable in baby maths. No one, actually. Get a grip.

So this thread will be an even more in-depth discussion of mathematics.

Let the teaching begin!

FishFace · #13 2nd March 2008, 12:16 PM

By geophysics do you mean the good old "geofizz" of Time Team fame? Oo arr, that's a noice anomaly you got thar moi luvver Tony!

(Brits may appreciate this...)

sinan90 · #14 2nd March 2008, 01:31 PM

Originally Posted by FishFace

By geophysics do you mean the good old "geofizz" of Time Team fame? Oo arr, that's a noice anomaly you got thar moi luvver Tony!

(Brits may appreciate this...)

LOL.

trivista · #15 2nd March 2008, 01:34 PM

Originally Posted by dad

The observed magnetic field of the earth is said to be decreasing.

http://www.mbowden.surf3.net/Magfallx.gif

"The average "intensity" of the earth's magnetic field has decreased exponentially by about 7% since its first careful measurement in 1829.[1] The field's intensity includes components of strength and direction and tells us the amount of force turning a compass needle northward. By estimating the field intensity everywhere (in, on, and above the earth), we can calculate the total electrical "energy" stored in the field. Such calculations show that the total energy in the field has decreased by about 14% since 1829."

http://www.icr.org/index.php?module=...on=view&ID=371

Tossing aside the assumptions of the unknown inner earth generator claims, the evidence seems to say we are losing power, captain. (as Scotty might have said)

As some might realize, if they heard my different universe state in the past musings, this fits hand in glove with such a concept.

Amazing.

You are smarter and better than this. Why post something that 5 minutes of research would show to be false?

dad · #16 2nd March 2008, 01:43 PM

Originally Posted by consol

Do you think God is causing this? if so, why? if not, who or what is?
Does this mean creationism is true? or not? is this proof for creationism? or against?

Well, I feel that all evidence that indicates a young earth helps, if that is what this does.
What is causing it is a good question. I wonder if it might be a little like a car, when the alternator light comes on. In other words, the battery starts to go down, and we know time is limited when we lose the generating power in the vehicle. If the power is going down in spaceship earth, why, we might want to ask if we had some sort of change in the former workings.

dad · #17 2nd March 2008, 01:55 PM

Originally Posted by lemmings

Wow, the Earth’s magnetic field lost 14% of its power in 180 years. If the rate of decay where linear and we traced it back 6,000 years, the magnetic field would be nearly 5 times more powerful than it is today. This would be strong enough to rip the iron out of Adam and Eve’s blood causing them to asphyxiate*.

YOUNG EARTH CREATIONISM DISPROVEN! Life could not have been on the Earth for 6,000 years!!!

*

Well, I wonder how it looks if we trace it back 4400 years? If we lost 7% in say, 2 centuries, if we add say, 42 more centuries, we get, say, another 7% for each 2 centuries. so, 42 divided by 2 is 21. Now, add that (7% times 21 = 147) - to the 7%, and we get about 154. Isn't that less than double? Now, if we factor in the wild fluctuations and 'reversals' at the time of the big change, is there really any concern there??
Nice try.

CACTUSJACKmankin · #18 2nd March 2008, 02:12 PM

How does YEC explain magnetic field reversals on the seafloor? you can see the ridges, the seafloor is one alignment for a while and then it reverses, and the reversal pattern is symetrical with respect to the ridge. Isnt the logical conclusion that these bands of alignment form when the ridges churn up new seafloor which locks in the alignment when it cools under one field and then that field reverses and the new seafloor locks in the new alignment? do they think the earth was created with 150 million years worth of seafloor spreading and magnetic field reversal?

dad · #19 2nd March 2008, 02:13 PM

Originally Posted by Tomk80

Those who say that are lying bastards. The magnetic field is fluctuating, sometimes decreases, other times increasing.

Well, you seem to assume a lot. Try to separate your past myths from observed science, now.

dad · #20 2nd March 2008, 02:16 PM

Originally Posted by lemmings

You mean to tell me that Jesus, Moses, Noah, and Adam didn’t record this excellent data?

I think they recorded what went on, and finding out the details, is up to us, from science, and that record.

Why does this graph go into the negatives? Intensity is always a positive number!

If a battery is losing power, we could graph it as going down.