NB: "Immaculate conception" is a term that refers to the special circumstances of Mary's (rather than Jesus's) birth. According to Roman Catholic dogma, Mary was born without the stain (Latin: "macula") of Original Sin.
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NB: "Immaculate conception" is a term that refers to the special circumstances of Mary's (rather than Jesus's) birth. According to Roman Catholic dogma, Mary was born without the stain (Latin: "macula") of Original Sin.
Muslims do not believe in the "Original Sin" idea that Christians beleive in.
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Muslims do not believe in the "Original Sin" idea that Christians beleive in.
I know. That's why I clarified the term "immaculate conception" - which, as I said, refers to Mary rather than Jesus.
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That's the whole point---- the righteous *Jesus* dying for the unrighteous *US*. Sinners........ being forgiven. No one is exactly like Christ. You expect too much from humans. Jesus wouldn't have had to shed his blood on the cross if we were Christlike, because we would have fulfilled the law of love ourselves.
I think the auhtor experiences the Christ like behaviours so he speaks like that.
I think the auhtor experiences the Christ like behaviours so he speaks like that.Is the death of Christ an excuse for christians to be unrighteous ?
Are you implying that ALL Christ-ians are unrighteous as were the Judean rulers our Lord spoke against
Matthew 3:9 "And no ye should be thinking to say in yourselves 'a father we are having, the Abraham'.
For I am saying unto ye, that is able the God out of the stones, these, to raise-up children to the Abraham".
Luke 16:24 And he sounding said "Father Abraham! be thou merciful to-me! and send Lazarus! that he should be dipping the tip of the finger of him of water and should be cooling down the tongue of me that I am being pained in the Flame this."
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2 kings 6:17 And 'Eliysha` is praying and saying "YHWH, open! please! his eyes and he shall see"
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This is what Islam says and so we believe but your religion Christianity says that Jesus was not created but God's Himself and just came to earth, If I am not mistaken.
If God did not create Jesus by His power, then who do you believe his father is?
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why not live a life of sin and repent after?? well for one you don't know when you will stand before God and if you are standing before God then it is to late to repent..
In all honesty, I do not know or care either way. She gave birth to a great Prophet in Jesus(PBUH), who's word still touches the lives of people that are not followers of Christianity. His teachings were the basis for Dr. King's non-violent approach to Civil Rights. It was his followers that created the division and violence in Christianity's history.
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If God did not create Jesus by His power, then who do you believe his father is?
? I do believe God did create Jesus by His power. So this question cannot be for me. It is you christians who say that God did not create Jesus but He is God's Himself..
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