tell you what here is a challenge from the quran3:61. Then whoever disputes with you concerning him ['Iesa (Jesus)] after (all this) knowledge that has come to you, [i.e. 'Iesa (Jesus)] being a slave of Allâh, and having no share in Divinity) say: (O Muhammad SAW) "Come, let us call our sons and your sons, our women and your women, ourselves and yourselves - then we pray and invoke (sincerely) the Curse of Allâh upon those who lie."
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Yeah lets give it a shot.
What happens if they lie?
What happens if they don't lie?
We are still going to be in the same place tomorrow.
What if I ask Allah to strike me dead if he is real?
Do you think he will?
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We are still going to be in the same place tomorrow.
What if I ask Allah to strike me dead if he is real?
Do you think he will?
Good questions
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As per Muhammad's thought Allah Has limited capabilities, cause Allah cannot have a son without a wife/consort
Quran
006.101
Y: To Him is due the primal origin of the heavens and the earth: How can He have a son when He hath no consort? He created all things, and He hath full knowledge of all things.
P: The Originator of the heavens and the earth! How can He have a child, when there is for Him no consort, when He created all things and is Aware of all things?
S: Wonderful Originator of the heavens and the earth! How could He have a son when He has no consort, and He (Himself) created everything, and He is the Knower of all things.
I guess we might call this a clear case of "irreconcilable theological differences".
I can see where both sides are coming from, but ultimately consider the debate to be as futile as a discussion between Trekkies and Star Wars fans:
"The Enterprise alone has more firepower than the Death Star - and it's not even meant to be a war ship!"
"Yeah, but Darth Vader could use Force Persuasion to make Cpt. Kirk hit the self-destruct button before he'd even realize what had happened."
"Ah, whatever, Jedzia Dax was waaaaay hotter than Princess Leia, anyway!"
The starting points of both sides are so utterly different as to render the possibility of a consensus virtually nonexistent. Oh, sure, at first glance, they seem to be pretty similar - but scratch at the surface, and what you find are insurmountable rifts.
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why not live a life of sin and repent after?? well for one you don't know when you will stand before God and if you are standing before God then it is to late to repent..
6:101 emphesize the absurdity of the thought of Allah having a child( son or girl).
Was Adam not a son of God? Was not Adam created by God?
Jesus was created miraculously by the power of God just like Adam, but within the womb of Mary, hence he was begotten, but not by sexual means. So no, I do not think it is absurd.
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why not live a life of sin and repent after?? well for one you don't know when you will stand before God and if you are standing before God then it is to late to repent..
Jesus was created miraculously by the power of God just like Adam...
This is what Islam says and so we believe but your religion Christianity says that Jesus was not created but God's Himself and just came to earth, If I am not mistaken.
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Originally Posted by RMDY
Was Adam not a son of God? Was not Adam created by God?
Jesus was created miraculously by the power of God just like Adam, but within the womb of Mary, hence he was begotten, but not by sexual means. So no, I do not think it is absurd.
What Christians ascribe to regarding Jesus(PBUH) is that he was God on earth; not simply the Son of God as Adam was. You believe in his divinity whereas we don't. We believe in the Immaculate Conception and that he's the Messiah but we do not believe that he was God or equal to God in any form. He was a great prophet and that's all.
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