Once again i don't know what ican say to crystalpc because what can you say to someone who is clearly intolerant and consumed with ignorance..
One thing you can say, is what "you say" about the questions that are raised, instead of ignoring them or referring to someone else.
I am glad to answer questions about my faith, of course I don't have anything to hide, because I will tell you right off that I care enough about your soul to preach Jesus in season and out.
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Any how im wasting my time talking with you about this cuz your just going to compare this to something ridiculous and start talking about 9-11 terrorists or something
And only that if you said what happened to Mohammed Atta, would explain a lot about even what type of muslim you are. I am not afraid to tell you what happened to Tim McViegh who died unrepentive..our scriptures are very plain about it. Are yours?? If they are then what happened to Atta is germaine to the discussion.
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What do you want me to say about Atta? im not going to comment about him becaus ei know nothing about him but i will comment about men supposedly like him. Any man who commits suicide to kill others is weak, immoral, and not a believer in Allah's religion nor in the teachings of the prophets. I dont know what more i can say other than that, really isnt much more to say honestly.
Hadith - Bukhari 7:670, Narrated Abu Huraira
The Prophet said, "Whoever purposely throws himself from a mountain and kills himself, will be in the (Hell) Fire falling down into it and abiding therein perpetually forever; and whoever drinks poison and kills himself with it, he will be carrying his poison in his hand and drinking it in the (Hell) Fire wherein he will abide eternally forever; and whoever kills himself with an iron weapon, will be carrying that weapon in his hand and stabbing his abdomen with it in the (Hell) Fire wherein he will abide eternally forever."
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That is what I wanted to hear, it tells me that you do not practice Islam as some do? That there is a branch of Islam that does believe that Jihad is wrong. The fact you won't name him purposely does make me wonder though if there is something you are not saying..
You see we do not blame all muslims for September 11, we blame the teaching itself. You did not kill 3000 americans, it is my wish you never kill anyone, believe me, as it is my wish no one ever suffers because of me.
We do recognize that there are good people in all, but the religion of islam which is it's teahing, that is another thing altogether.
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Originally Posted by crystalpc
That is what I wanted to hear, it tells me that you do not practice Islam as some do? That there is a branch of Islam that does believe that Jihad is wrong..
Jihad is not wrong. Jihad is a central part of Islam, a struggle to practice our religion and live our lives in this world. Jihad has several aspects, a defensive fight, a struggle with the nafs, or the worldly pull on your soul, things of that nature.
Killing innocent people is not jihad. That is just plain stupid and unislamic.
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–Ali ibn Abi Talib Islam is based on naql (texts) and ‘aql (intellect). Some people just have the texts - we call them naql-heads. - Shaykh Hamza Yusuf
Jihad is not wrong. Jihad is a central part of Islam, a struggle to practice our religion and live our lives in this world. Jihad has several aspects, a defensive fight, a struggle with the nafs, or the worldly pull on your soul, things of that nature.
Killing innocent people is not jihad. That is just plain stupid and unislamic.
Jihad, now that's another issue where we will stand miles and miles apart.. The Jihad that is practiced by al queida is brutal. I can understand struggle of the soul. Rom 7:18 For I know that in me (that is, in my flesh,) dwelleth no good thing: for to will is present with me; but how to perform that which is good I find not. Rom 7:19 For the good that I would I do not: but the evil which I would not, that I do. Rom 7:20 Now if I do that I would not, it is no more I that do it, but sin that dwelleth in me Rom 8:1 There is therefore now no condemnation to them which are in Christ Jesus, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit.
But to struggle to the point of murder is evil, and abhorrent..
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You obviously don't know anything about how your own military operates but that hasnothing to do with you or christ so i won't try to connect you to it. The u.S military is the furthest thing from Christ as you can get.
"That is what I wanted to hear, it tells me that you do not practice Islam as some do? That there is a branch of Islam that does believe that Jihad is wrong.."
What the heck are you talking about, you love to twist words around on peopl or something... im going to call you the python lol. I never said i don't support Jihad... maybe not the jihad your thinking about but the kind of jihad you think of isnt Islam any how......Go read in "Islam and War" topic and you can se some info Rahma and i are posting. JIHAD IS NOT SUICIDE so why am i now not a true muslim by saying that!?
God fully supports any who fights to protect their family, land, people, religion in his name. Aggressive premtive war is not tolerated. I believe in the sacrifice of yourself to fight your enemy but not by suicidal attacks because the prophet clearly states suicide is haram. When i say giving your life i mean setting out to battle sacrificing your well being and your normal life with family ect to be fully fledged into Jihad until it is won and oppression and invasion is over. I commend the millions who have died in this cause against the any oppressor wether it be the Nazi's or the bosnians ect. Please crystal don't twist my words aroudn on me, if you are unaware of your actions then try to understand my feelings before you start posting about "what kind of muslim i am". Thanks bud
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