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4th June 2004, 10:39 PM
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Reps: 89,454,320,580,119,680 (power: 89,454,320,580,131) | | Originally Posted by Bushmaster Bible says, women should be quiet in church and they should cover their heads. Yet we have many women preachers and disgustingly mini skirt wearing teens in church ... I would like to hear your take on that please ...
That was a particular teaching to a particular church. And if girls are doing that then I don't agree!
Thank you for your reply rhama. Please be aware, I don't hate muslims or even Islam overall, I was just shocked after stumbling across these massively detailed laws! |
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So just because of that was a particular teaching to a particular church, we render it unnecessary since we are not that church at all. Is that how we treat the Word of God? That church doesn't exist today, so why don't we just toss it out of the Bible? Boy, what were they thinking when they did the canon of the bible?
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Reps: 89,454,320,580,119,680 (power: 89,454,320,580,131) | | Originally Posted by Bushmaster So just because of that was a particular teaching to a particular church, we render it unnecessary since we are not that church at all. Is that how we treat the Word of God? That church doesn't exist today, so why don't we just toss it out of the Bible? Boy, what were they thinking when they did the canon of the bible?
No, because there are examples of female prophetesses and even leaders in other parts of the NT. Do a google search on it, I'm too tired to dig up links now... |
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5th June 2004, 12:18 AM
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Reps: 70,513 (power: 85) | | | That is something I never understood, how everything in Islam is damning but if we point out something in the Bible, no it isn't for everyone. Why is it in the Bible then? Why were those books put in there, 100s of years after they were written to a particular community, if what was there was not meant for all believers?
Paul certainly had a good reason to write it to that particular church. What were his reasons? And how can that be applied to all churches?
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Reps: 70,513 (power: 85) | | Originally Posted by radorth If you want to specify the specific difficulties you are talking about Rahma, we will go from there. Otherwise we will assume you are just spreading division.
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Gee, actually I was engaging Bushmaster, someone with whom I have a fairly decent on board relationship, so "we" ain't going to assume anything, darling.
It is not my intention to spread mayhem where ever I go, I am simply raising questions that I would find interesting to discuss with Bushmaster and the original poster of the thread
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5th June 2004, 01:06 AM
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Reps: 11 (power: 0) | | Originally Posted by Bushmaster Bible says, women should be quiet in church and they should cover their heads. Yet we have many women preachers and disgustingly mini skirt wearing teens in church ... I would like to hear your take on that please ...
The Bible also says that my father may sell me as a slave...and that any person who is "unclean" should not attend services. The only reason these rules have changed is because of tradition, and social changes. Don't forget, however divine the inspiration, those who wrote it down were human, and therefore influenced to their own cultural paradigms. |
5th June 2004, 07:09 AM
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But, there aren't anywhere near as many laws as I have seen in Islam, and don't cover so many areas in life-like eating, how exactly one should pray, women shaking men's hands who aren't related to them being disallowed...there is even rules about what "tone" of voice people should speak to eachother in, how we should joke etc.... |
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