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God is the Author of Logic.

Reasoning is all about logic.

Seems to me like science is just another way to understand God.
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Old 29th February 2008, 10:04 PM
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Originally Posted by EnemyPartyII View Post
Creations tend to studiously avoid threads they know they can't win.

I call this thread won.

(And not avoided.)
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Old 1st March 2008, 12:19 AM
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Originally Posted by busterdog View Post
I call this thread won.

(And not avoided.)
Why? The only thing any other creationist (NathanCGreen) has said about my essay is that he didn’t want to take the time to refute it.

That’s not a victory, it’s a cop-out. What would be necessary for either of you to have a victory is if one of you showed that you were actually able to refute my points, rather than just claiming you can while saying nothing to support this, and then if I and the other supporters of evolution weren’t able to refute your reply.

It’s obvious that neither of you are able to do that. The only reason the two of you replied here is because it would look bad if this thread got no replies from creationists at all, but if either of you were capable of saying anything of value about my essay, you or he would have done so. If you think I’m wrong about this, I encourage you to prove it, but I know that you won’t. If you or Nathan replies again, it will be with another arrogant and empty post like the two so far.
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Originally Posted by Aggie View Post
If you or Nathan replies again, it will be with another arrogant and empty post like the two so far.
Mine isn't arrogant, but it sure is empty.
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Originally Posted by Aggie View Post
Why? The only thing any other creationist (NathanCGreen) has said about my essay is that he didn’t want to take the time to refute it.

That’s not a victory, it’s a cop-out. What would be necessary for either of you to have a victory is if one of you showed that you were actually able to refute my points, rather than just claiming you can while saying nothing to support this, and then if I and the other supporters of evolution weren’t able to refute your reply.

It’s obvious that neither of you are able to do that. The only reason the two of you replied here is because it would look bad if this thread got no replies from creationists at all, but if either of you were capable of saying anything of value about my essay, you or he would have done so. If you think I’m wrong about this, I encourage you to prove it, but I know that you won’t. If you or Nathan replies again, it will be with another arrogant and empty post like the two so far.
This is not a good way to get started.
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Originally Posted by Aggie View Post
If you or Nathan replies again, it will be with another arrogant and empty post like the two so far.
Originally Posted by busterdog View Post
This is not a good way to get started.

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Originally Posted by Aggie View Post
The question that will surely be asked at this point is, can the theory of evolution be considered sound science? Although it would be easy to answer this question with a simple “yes” or “no”, such an answer would be of little value: a scientific theory is never valid because a person declares it to be so, but because of its ability to explain evidence that cannot be explained by any competing theory. It is for this reason that the next six chapters of this booklet exist: in order to show what this evidence is in the case of evolution.
This paragraph has at least two obvious problems:

The term "sound science" is not defined. Is an unsound science still a science? If not, then it is a wrong question.

A scientific theory is STILL valid even it can not explain some features. (evidence is a wrong word to use in here). It has nothing to do with any other competing theories.

Because of these two problems. The paragraph has one big problem: confusing.

So, I guess the reader can save time by skipping the rest of the book.
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Originally Posted by gluadys View Post
QED

We all know that I have been plenty game on many big questions.

Aggie and some others are new here. I give her a pass.

Enemy is not. She may wish to declare victory. It is easy to do and cheap.

Anyone who wants to accuse me of being "unable" to argue or being afraid really ought to know better.


And if it is arrogance, then why bother trying to converse with people of such low caliber be it me or anyone else?
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Originally Posted by busterdog View Post
We all know that I have been plenty game on many big questions.
True, which is why the silence is so resounding.

Aggie and some others are new here. I give her a pass.
Check the gender icon.

And Aggie has asked for engagement, not a pass.
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Originally Posted by juvenissun View Post
The term "sound science" is not defined.
Originally Posted by My essay
Those that qualify as sound must fit the description given above, explaining all of the observations which pertain to them in a way that no other theory can.
You didn’t read the whole thing, did you?

I’m also still waiting for someone to address the actual points of my essay, rather than just pointing out things they don’t like about my word choice and sentence structure.

Originally Posted by gluadys View Post
Check the gender icon.
This is at least the fourth time someone has failed to notice it.

He also ought to check the “date joined” icon in my profile before referring to me as being new. I’ve been a member here for more than twice as long as he has.
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